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...."Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright will stand with Muslims",Are we suprised

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Started: 1/30/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Lookingatissues

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...." Clinton Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright says she is ready to register as Muslim in a show of solidarity.....Jan.29Th.2017are we surprised.
Those who have held the position of "Secretary of State," under democrat presidents, has been reserved for a select group of individuals, those individuals with personal peccadilloes, those personal peccadilloes which endeared them so much to fellow democrats but turned off Americans .especially those who were Americans first.
For instance democrat Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright under Bill Clinton, had a fondness, aparently, for communist dictators and expressed that fondness while in North Korea. She was seen waltzing around with communist North Korean dictator, Kim Jong.
"....In a rare direct meeting in October 2000 with Kim Jone.... dictator of North Korea, ....at which she danced with the dictator..." Taken from " PowerLiNE,"under title, " save the Last dance for them.."
Would it then seem strange and out of character that ...."Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright says she is ready to register as Muslim....."
Then Hillary Clinton, former secretary of State under Obama, Cozied up to Communist Russian leader with her little "Reset Box."
" State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov press the "reset.. button" and seemed to be having a laugh together, or was "Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov," having a laugh at Hillary Clinton and democrat President Obama's navite.
Vladimir Putin most likely felt about Hillary Clinton the same way that Vladimir Putin felt about Obama, for instance....
" Vladimir Putin is reputed to have said that, "
" Dealing with obama is like playing chess with a pigeon; it knocks over all the pieces, craps all over the board, then struts around like it had just won the game." Author unknown

Not to be ignored, is Former Secretary of state, John Kerry of Swiftboat fame honored in a Book Titled," Unfit for Command."
"Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry is a 2004 book about then U.S. Presidential candidate John Kerry by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi " In the book it revealed the character, or lack there of, of John Kerry according to those who knew John Kerry and served in the military with him
All of these former democrat Secretarys of state had their "personal peccadilloes,"Anti American, and Country were ill served.
Tide_Bleach

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Debate Round No. 1
Lookingatissues

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First, I would like to acknowledge the great debating skills of Tide_Bleach and the challenge Tide_Bleach would have been had he decided to debate me. I'm sure that it was only a matter of previous commitment that didn't allow for him to participate in this debate.
But back to the debate, ."Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright will stand with Muslims", are we surprised, that "Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said this. ."Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's statement is just a symptom, an indicator of the leftist domination of the democrat party hierarchy and its party members at least since Franklin D. Roosevelt became president . It isn't surprising , or should it be, to anyone who has followed America's History since President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Election in 1933. I recalled a quote by him in which he said, "....there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country; several of the best friends I have got are Communists."
Obviously the democrat party has given its approved of communism as well.
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Posted by DavidMancke 11 months ago
DavidMancke
I'm guessing that's a, "no" on the debate offer..?
Posted by DavidMancke 11 months ago
DavidMancke
Correct, you asserted that education is a liberal conspiracy; and I told you that teachers tend toward positions the GOP is, in essence, at war with; to refresh your memory..

At any rate, if you would like to debate a topic such as education, or the moral need for a nation to be honest about its wrongs I am wiling to indulge you. Feel free to suggest an area of interest.
Posted by Lookingatissues 11 months ago
Lookingatissues
You refer to my punctuation as not being proper, I really didn't want to mention this but it appears that you have some difficulty sticking with the topic which was, to refresh your memory, ...."Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright will stand with Muslims," are we surprised.." what "school lunches" have to do with the subject evades me as does "Moon landings and "Fake Birth certificates...." But whatever rocks your boat.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."
Author unknown
This is in reference to your comment," The fact is the GOP has been a catalyst for defunding public education and school lunches since the 80's"
Posted by DavidMancke 11 months ago
DavidMancke
Do you eat anything other than word salad..? Your words and line breaks border on making you unintelligible.

That said, you dismiss a robustly established reality out of hand when addressing teachers. The fact is the GOP has been a catalyst for defunding public education and school lunches since the 80's. That may not be germane to the point you are failing to land, but it is true. You would have us believe there is a sweeping conspiracy between some leftist cabal and education; and ignore the fact that the GOP has cast it's lot with forces opposed to education and teachers.

If you want to traffic and delusion knock yourself out, it's a free country. But be advised, the point you are trying to land ignores reality and flies in the face of Occam's razor.

So, where did they stage the moon landing, and how did Obama fake his birth certificate again..?
Posted by Lookingatissues 11 months ago
Lookingatissues
lookingattheissues2's comments
DavidMancke posted "....doesn't prove some case conspiracy or heavy bias."
The evidence is in regarding those in the teaching profession and their leftist ideologies and its overwhelming
"Led by the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association, teachers unions contributed a total of about $19.2 million in the 2012 elections."
"The NEA, which is more than 150 years old and advocates for teachers on a number of issues, contributed more than $14.7 million in 2012. Since 1989, it has been the fourth biggest donor out of all organizations tracked by CRP. AFT is another heavy-hitter, having given $4.4 million in 2012 that went to Democrats or liberal groups....."

The educational system is a system that is highly leftist/ democrat, political and tendured, just like Supreme court justices are tendured in their positions. In a book titled, A country I do not recognize,....."The Author wrote regarding the Supreme Court System," The crux of the problem, as already noted, is that the cultural elite distrusts and fears popular rule, much preferring rule by the court; and the elite dominates communications and education...." As I have noted in previous posts the fact that the teachers and professors predominately share a leftist ideology and have tenure assures that they are secure in their jobs. And like former professor, Bill Ayers are free to indoctrinate their young students all the while pretending to be unbiased.
Posted by Lookingatissues 11 months ago
Lookingatissues
DavidMancke posted,"Teachers vote for democrats because the GOP rejects science and wants to fund public schools and lunches. That doesn't prove some case conspiracy or heavy bias.
lookingattheissues2 comments .....You posited a Supposition as if it were an absolute when nothing could be further from the truth.To paint Republican teachers with such a broad brush defies reality and just as false as saying that all minorities vote for democrats.
You posted,"....Teachers vote for democrats because...."
The reason teachers vote for democrats is most likely that they are fully aware that the educational system is dominated from top down, by progressive, leftist, and secular democrats. The relative few Republican teachers realize that if they want to follow in their chosen profession have to relegate themselves to submissive positions in educational institutions.
To fail to understand why teachers vote for democrats is
"....like an army of Clousseaus pursuing every possible explanation of the mystery except the one that is staring them in the face." Quote ...Author unknown
Posted by DavidMancke 11 months ago
DavidMancke
Teachers vote for democrats because the GOP rejects science and wants to fund public schools and lunches. That doesn't prove some case conspiracy or heavy bias.
Posted by Lookingatissues 11 months ago
Lookingatissues
Posted by DavidMancke 1 day ago "Try reading books instead of burning them." -Sean Connery

lookingattheissues comments: lookingattheissues comments... I have been looking for some good authors who's unbias and trustworthy, Would you recommend Elizabeth Warren, who claimed to be a "Native American.""The Harvard Crimson reported similar information in 1998....."
".....Harvard Law School currently has only one tenured minority woman, Gottlieb Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren, who is Native American...."
Wiki
"The Harvard Crimson reported similar information in 1998....."
".....Harvard Law School currently has only one tenured minority woman, Gottlieb Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren, who is Native American...."
Wiki
Perhaps Ward Churchill
"What do former CU professor Ward Churchill and U.S. Senate candidate from Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren have in common? Both falsely claimed Native American ancestry and have been caught plagiarizing others work...."
Churchill claimed varying degrees of Native American ancestry, but a Rocky Mountain News investigation "identified 142 direct forebears of Churchill and turned up no evidence of a single Indian ancestor among them."
Likewise, Elizabeth "Hunts At Whole Foods" Warren claimed to be 1/32 Cherokee, but the Boston Globe reports "she has not proven she has a Native American ancestor, instead saying she based her belief on family lore, and she has no official tribal affiliation......"
Perhaps then, Bill Ayers of terrorist weathermen fame, a former professor, ".....University of Illinois." He is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago"( "Bill Ayers: Bernardine Rae Dohrn")
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was thinking about reading something by David Horowitz but I heard that he's bias
Posted by Lookingatissues 11 months ago
Lookingatissues
( A ) DavidMancke.... "If you refuse to expose yourself to academic curriculum on the [ assumption] it's, "leftist..... "
lookingattheissues2 ( assumption ?" )
"What percenage of teachers vote democrat "
"95 % of teachers vote for democrat party"
WIKIANSWERS
Political Article
"College profs go big for Dems"
By Andy Barr
09/22/10
"College professors and administrators are donating heavily in the midterm elections and are overwhelmingly supporting Democrats over Republicans, according to a new study...."
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College Faculties A Most Liberal Lot, Study Finds
By Howard KurtzWashington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 29, 2005; Page C01
College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.
By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans.
Posted by DavidMancke 11 months ago
DavidMancke
Your a goddamned moron, any fascism aside. If you refuse to expose yourself to academic curriculum on the assumption it's, "leftist" you have no basis from which to claim that the materials will or will not advance a persons learnedness. Moreover, there is not even an intuitive link between the "leftist" dominion over higher education and a marketplace oligarchy. If you had a familiarity with logic conventions, easily attained at a community college, then you'd already know this. Lt me recommend a book, and suggest you not burn it. I have a free copy with a bit of water damage that is yours at the asking.

https://www.amazon.com...

Now the meat and potatoes. You didn't answer a goddamned thing I said about American nationalism and harmful colonialism. You don't defend the legacy and you don't dispute the harms I pointed out. You don't even dispute that actual patriotism requires we acknowledge these wrongs in pursuit of a more benevolent future. Just so you know, in debate; dropping things means you lose the argument. We typically call it, "flowing across;" the argument you failed to answer now flows across the entire debate unopposed.

But I will offer you a consolation in the tradition of one of the great heroes of the American right; I will debate you. If you are inclined we can come to a topic addressing American nationalism; good or bad, and I will contend that is it more harmful than not. That is, unless your scared.
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