The Instigator
questionmark
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
Ragnar_Rahl
Con (against)
Winning
46 Points

1 does not = 2

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Ragnar_Rahl
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/12/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,148 times Debate No: 7816
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (10)
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questionmark

Pro

Thank you opponent for accepting this debate. However, you are wrong. One cannot equal 2. It is not possible. Kudos for accepting this debate, but good luck proving me wrong.
Ragnar_Rahl

Con

The out of context absolute that we have for our resolution is, as an absolute, false.

1 pair of shoes equals 2 shoes.

1 pint equals 2 cups in United States fluid volume measurement.

If units were predefined in the resolution, it could probably be fixed, but 1 of a given unit can occasionally equal 2 of another given unit.
Debate Round No. 1
questionmark

Pro

I thank my opponent for accepting this debate, and realize his point. However, I was referring to the numeral 1 and the numeral 2. I apologize for not being clear about this.
Ragnar_Rahl

Con

Well, unfortunately, such ambiguities in resolutions should be resolved before debates if one wishes them to go in one's favor. :)
Debate Round No. 2
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Pro

questionmark forfeited this round.
Ragnar_Rahl

Con

Kentucky fried?
Debate Round No. 3
questionmark

Pro

questionmark forfeited this round.
Ragnar_Rahl

Con

Good lawd
Debate Round No. 4
questionmark

Pro

questionmark forfeited this round.
Ragnar_Rahl

Con

Finalmente
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by bombmaniac 8 years ago
bombmaniac
come on guys enjoy it its funny!
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
You can find out the set of dopey rules probably if you attempt to derive them from this debate, and these debates:

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

Now, formally there aren't any such rules-- because formally this website's only rules are the terms of service, which do not significantly impact the sort or style of arguments you can make. But informally, these criteria are generally followed-- if someone instigates a resolution as trivial as this one, it's open season on taking them down a few pegs, if you can pull it off, by any means necessary.
Posted by RoyLatham 8 years ago
RoyLatham
If the case is made, forfeiting is a conduct violation, but the arguments are not necessarily overcome. In this case, Pro really didn't need to say a word.

I'll admit there is a problem with dopey debates on dopey topics. Maybe a special set of "dopey rules" ought to apply. Or maybe they do apply, and I just don't know what they are.
Posted by leet4A1 8 years ago
leet4A1
Pro wins? WTF? He forfeited more rounds than he debated.
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
Two things:

He forfeited

This isn't the kind of debate you start up without expecting "Every possible semantic contrivance," if you don't specify otherwise. It's a safe assumption that they are not looking for a "fair game" so to speak, if they are trying a resolution like this and taking the easy side.
Posted by RoyLatham 8 years ago
RoyLatham
Yeah sure, and it wasn't specified to be in base 10. If it were in binary 1 + 1 = 10, in unary 1 + 1 = 11 ... The meaning of the resolution was clear, so it is nonsense to suppose that every possible semantic contrivance should have been anticipated is nonsense. The math is perfectly valid. How it is applied is subject to error and semantics, but the math is perfectly clear. Pro wins.
Posted by bombmaniac 8 years ago
bombmaniac
lol
Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
Someone who was looking for a win for the old win ratio got pwnd.
Posted by Epicism 8 years ago
Epicism
<Looks for Kleptin>
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
What the f...... who then heel would accept this debate?
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