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s0m31john
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draxxt
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10% (Kemonomimi/Nekomimi) is not furry.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/7/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 27,489 times Debate No: 3546
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s0m31john

Pro

I will first define some keywords.

Kemonomimi - an anime and manga terminology describing humanoid characters that possess animal-like features. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

Nekomimi - a female with cat ears, a cat tail, or other feline accoutrements on an otherwise human-shaped body. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

Examples of the above two can be found at http://img.7chan.org... NSFW

Furry - the term used to define pornographic content (generally drawings, more rarely depicting images of anthropomorphic animals), that range in appearance from human genitalia and physical frame, animal features (muzzle, paws) human genitalia, animal physical frame and features animal genitalia and physical frame, yet with human features. (http://wikichan.org...)

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Kemonomimi and Nekomimi images are not animal like enough and should not be considered "furry".

As I am not good with opening statements I will wait for my opponent to argue that Kemonomimi and Nekomimi images are in fact furry.
draxxt

Con

I ammend that my opponent is a geek and therefore, given no prior knowledge to this anime, will attempt to provide incentive to their geekiness.
Dictionary.com defines geek as:
geek Slang.
–noun 1. a peculiar or otherwise dislikable person, esp. one who is perceived to be overly intellectual.
In this sense I concede to the fact that my opponent is intellectual but only in the matter of This anime.
Whereas dictionary.com has no definition for Kemonomimi/Nekomimi.
So I submit to you to vote in negation to this resolution due to the sheer stupidity and ultimately, the unquestionable geekiness of it. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
s0m31john

Pro

Thanks for accepting my debate draxxt, I was beginning to wonder if anyone would.

Although I fail to see what you said regarding my "geekyness" has to do with the proposition, I will quickly address your points.

"given no prior knowledge to this anime"

You refer to Nemonomimi and Nekomimi as a specific anime, where as if you had read the definitions I posted it is pretty clear it is a style of anime. I believe you're confusing it to be a specific tv show or manga.

"my opponent is intellectual but only in the matter of This anime."

Once again you refer to Nemonomimi and Nekomimi as a specific anime, when it is a style is anime.

"Whereas dictionary.com has no definition for Kemonomimi/Nekomimi."

Perhaps I shouldn't of used Wikipedia, I personally believe it to be a reliable source, but some on this site do not.

Reference.com, affiliated with dictionary.com, therefore should be just as reliable as the site you hold in high esteem, has a definition for both words.

http://www.reference.com... (Kemonomimi)
http://www.reference.com... (Nekomimi)

Both VERY similar, if not identical, to the definitions provided by Wikipedia.

Now that I have addressed those points draxxt, I hope you will address the topic at hand. Let me refresh your memory:

"10% (Kemonomimi/Nekomimi) is not furry."

My point still stands, Kemonomimi/Nekomimi are not animal like enough in appearance and should not be considered furry.
draxxt

Con

I hereby concede to my previous argument for it was a slander and nothing more. I have nothing but the utmost respect for all of my opponents and meant nothing by the first statement.
Yes it is true that a majority of these two styles of anime (Which, by the way, was not sufficiently recorded in my last argument due to my apathy) Is a majority human But I I bring an alternative. As we cannot, by any standards, judge the distribution of each individual character and what parts make up their bodies in percentage, I propose this debate is null and void. Until such a time can be proven hence, I will not argue further.
Debate Round No. 2
s0m31john

Pro

"As we cannot, by any standards, judge the distribution of each individual character and what parts make up their bodies in percentage, I propose this debate is null and void."

Your argument would stand if I had only made the proposition "10% is not furry." and then had gone on to not lay the outline of the terms I was debating. "10%" is just a common term to describe Kemonomimi and Nekomimi anime.

The proposition includes the terms Kemonomimi and Nekomimi, and my opening statement provides definitions. We are not debating whether or not a certain percentage is furry, but rather is those two styles of anime are to be considered furry.

I wish you would stop trying to discredit the debate and discuss the topic at hand as outlined be me very well in my opening statement, as I am going to do now.

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I would invite you to take two examples:

http://www.s0m31john.com... (Kemonomimi/Nekomimi 18+ NSFW)

http://www.s0m31john.com... (Furry 18+ NSFW)

The two are wildly different and should not be categorized as the same. The furry image by far closer resembles the animal it is intended to look like than the catgirl example for Kemonomimi and Nekomimi. This of course can not be calculated in percentage wise, but the percentage was never meant to be exact, rather just a common phrase in these communities.

Kemonomimi and Nekomimi are far to different from furry to fall in the same category, which is why they have their own.

I close hoping my opponent will discuss the topic and may the best debater of said topic win.
draxxt

Con

I'm sorry. Let me begin by saying, I joined this debate as a joke. I'm terribly sorry I wasted all of your time. If you would like to debate something else with me, please, feel free to challenge me!
I forfeit
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by AlexThunder 3 years ago
AlexThunder
As far as this debate goes, though, since a Kemonomimi is a human character with animal characteristics and a furry is an animal with human characteristics, the base of their being and what they are differs (one is human, the other one is an animal) So i agree with pro, they are not the same.
Posted by AlexThunder 3 years ago
AlexThunder
Furry, by the way, is not the pornographic material of anthropomorphic animals. I don't know who gave you this definition, but a furry is a character depicted in an anthropomorphic way, meaning it's an animal with human characteristics: It can walk on 2 legs, it can talk, think like a human, has human-like appearance and features. So theoretically a nekomimi is a furry as it can be an animal with very human-like characteristics in appearance, but act very much like an animal on the inside(thoughts, how the character acts). Pornographic material has nothing to do with the definition of a furry, just as pornographic material with nekomimi characters has nothing to do with the definition of such a character. Pretty logical, allow me to know a bit better on this subject.
Posted by draxxt 8 years ago
draxxt
Jeez, I was such a troll >.<
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
DDO does okay on google I guess.
Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
wtf

"Viewed: 13,587 times"
Posted by Zerosmelt 9 years ago
Zerosmelt
am i becoming old? *sheds a tear*
Posted by Zerosmelt 9 years ago
Zerosmelt
what on earth is the meaning of this? why would anyone bring up this topic. lol
Posted by DuskX-7 9 years ago
DuskX-7
Heh, seemed like both made their points...
Posted by draxxt 9 years ago
draxxt
How did I get any votes whatsoever?
Posted by ScrewSociety62 9 years ago
ScrewSociety62
Pedobear wins again! lulz.
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