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14 year olds should be automatically tried as adults

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Started: 3/10/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Lolo5

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Brain researchers B. J. Casey and Kristina Caudle stated that when no emotional cues (when we are required to make decisions in the heat of the moment) are present, teens are better than adults at controlling themselves. [1] While lots of crimes involve emotional cues, it's no different for teens because adults are held responsible for their actions.

It"s true that the prefrontal cortex is still developing in teens, but it is not defective. Just before puberty, research has found the brain experiences a burst of neuronal growth to provide for a period of pruning before adulthood. During the important adolescent stage of development, prefrontal connections are far from absent [1]. This means that 14+ year olds can examine fully in detail the constitution or structure the consequences of their behaviors, and thus should be held accountable the same way adults are.

An argument against trying 14+ year olds as adults is that a teen might not know what is legal and what is illegal. I will counter this by asking what 14 year old does not know shoplifting from a store is illegal and will land them in jail? And should we give less accountability to people new to the US or visiting the US who may not know all of our laws?

Another argument against trying 14+ year olds as adults is that their Amygdala is overactive. This can lead to 1 emotion being twice as strong than normal, which can lead teens to relying too much on emotions and thus acting impulsive. I will refute this arguing this can happen to adults as well [2]. Should adults who experience this be treated like juveniles?



There is a lot of mature matter in the 14 year old brain, sufficient enough to examine fully in detail the constitution or structure the consequences of their behaviors. This means that 14+ year olds should automatically be tried as adults.

Do I think 14 year olds should be treated like adults in other aspects? Yes but I will not be debating those other aspects.
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1 https://www.sacklerinstitute.org...
2 http://www.psychologytoday.com...
adhominem

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14 years olds are not adults therefore we should not try them as such, unless we want to redefine adulthood as beginning at 14 which we do not - thats my contention in a nutshell
Debate Round No. 1
Lolo5

Pro

I did say that 14 year olds should be treated like adults in other aspects, but I want to debate specifically being tried as an adult.

Brain researchers B. J. Casey and Kristina Caudle stated that when no emotional cues (when we are required to make decisions in the heat of the moment) are present, teens are better than adults at controlling themselves. [1] While lots of crimes involve emotional cues, it's no different for teens because adults are held responsible for their actions.It"s true that the prefrontal cortex is still developing in teens, but it is not defective. Just before puberty, research has found the brain experiences a burst of neuronal growth to provide for a period of pruning before adulthood. During the important adolescent stage of development, prefrontal connections are far from absent [1]. This means that 14+ year olds can examine fully in detail the constitution or structure the consequences of their behaviors, and thus should be held accountable the same way adults are.An argument against trying 14+ year olds as adults is that a teen might not know what is legal and what is illegal. I will counter this by asking what 14 year old does not know shoplifting from a store is illegal and will land them in jail? And should we give less accountability to people new to the US or visiting the US who may not know all of our laws?Another argument against trying 14+ year olds as adults is that their Amygdala is overactive. This can lead to 1 emotion being twice as strong than normal, which can lead teens to relying too much on emotions and thus acting impulsive. I will refute this arguing this can happen to adults as well [2]. Should adults who experience this be treated like juveniles?There is a lot of mature matter in the 14 year old brain, sufficient enough to examine fully in detail the constitution or structure the consequences of their behaviors. This means that 14+ year olds should automatically be tried as adults.Do I think 14 year olds should be treated like adults in other aspects? Yes but I will not be debating those other aspects.
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1 https://www.sacklerinstitute.org...
2 http://www.psychologytoday.com...
adhominem

Con

2 points:

1. It is logically and immorally inconsistent to treat someone as a child but then make suffer penalties in life based on them having the knowledge and experience of an Adult

2. Experience - Brain development is insignificant/irrelevent compared to experience. I am developed enough as a man to fly a plane but if you leave me alone in the cockpit i will kill us all. I don't have the knowledge and experience to fly that plane. Knowledge and experience of flying a plane over a period of time allows us to obtain the necessary certificates to fly (in a sense we have matured as pilots) - knowledge and experience of the legal system or morality etc is granted to us by achieving the required age limit - what society defines as a mature or 'adult' age.
Debate Round No. 2
Lolo5

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adhominem

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by wwwwh 2 years ago
wwwwh
If 14 year olds should be automaticaly tried as adults they should then lower the adult age to 14 it makes no sence to say one should be tried as an adult but other wise not reconized as an adult.
Posted by GoodOleBoy 2 years ago
GoodOleBoy
The problem with this is not that 14+ aged people aren't completely cognitive of what they are doing it's if we can try them as adults. You simply cannot as it is a complete unfairness if you say they should be tried as adults because they have the same brain power then why can't a 14 year old vote, or drink or smoke. Or even become a U.S. president so if you treat a 14 year old only as an adult in court than it is unfair you must treat them as adults in every other aspect i mean really a 14 year old can be tried and sentenced as an adult but they can't look at porn what type of injustice is that
Posted by Lolo5 2 years ago
Lolo5
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