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1972 Miami dolphins are better than the 2007 Patriots

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Started: 11/26/2014 Category: Sports
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Miamiman156

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The 1972 Miami dolphins are to this day the only undefeated team in NFL history. Many fans of the league are not aware of how good the dolphins were... The dolphins had three all-star-pack-a-punch backfield with Larry Csonka, Mercury Morris, and Jim Kiick. The passing game was powerful too with Bob Griese at QB and even when he got injured and was out for the regular season back up Earl Morall pushed them to a 14-0 record. The defense put some beef in this burrito with Nick Bouniconti at Middle linebacker. To finish the winningest coach of all time and arguably the best coach in NFL history Don Shula at head coach. In all the Dolphins were unbeatable winning the Super Bowl going 17-0 that season. The patriots however lost their Super Bowl to a 10-6 to the 5th seeded NY Giants (in all respect to the Giants) they had already beaten them that season. To me if these teams played the dolphins would win 38-17. I encourage all viewers to look at the highlights of any of the dolphins players listed
jathompson9

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First, let's analyze these teams strengths and (relative) weaknesses by position.

QB (Brady vs. Griese): I believe Tom Brady to be the greatest quarterback of all time. Fiercely competitive, incredibly accurate, masterful in the pocket, and mentally superior. Let us not forget that Tom Brady came within one touchdown drive of knocking off a much more talented Indianapolis team the year before, in the AFC championship game. Brady had virtually no weapons (they traded Deion Branch) yet because of his greatness he was able to place them as contenders. I bring this up to argue that Tom Brady was in the middle of his prime this year, having already won three super bowls, with an absolutely devastating deep ball that scared opponents out of their wits. Griese/Morrall were both serviceable, but there is no doubt that they played the role of game managers. The passing game (along with most teams of this era) was the primary "weakness" of this team (this was an absolutely incredible team, no doubt). They combined for less than 2,000 yards passing. If this game becomes a shootout, Miami has zero chance. (Major Edge New England)

RB (Morris/Csonka vs. ): Here is the 1972 Dolphins major edge. The tandem of Csonka and Morris ran for over 2,000 yards of offense, easily leading the league. They also were the driving force behind the best scoring offense in the league. Meanwhile, New England still had a very good rushing attack, 13th in the league in total yards. (Major Edge Miami)

WR: Do I even need to debate this? Randy Moss a first, second, third, and fourth time. The second greatest receiver ever. And if that's not enough, let's throw in Wes Welker, who led the league in receptions with 112. Donte Stallworth was a great third option as well. (Major Edge New England)

Offensive Line: The most underrated part of a successful football team, and a huge factor in these two powerful offenses. New England was led by Matt Light and Logan Mankins, perennial pro bowlers who both made the all pro team that year. Also, Dan Koppen, the center, made the all pro second team. For Miami, this group was probably a little better. Jim Langer and Larry Little were Hall of Famers. While Miami had the better players, in this particular year it was very close. (Slight Edge Miami)

Defensive Line: This unit was led by future Hall of Famer and perennial pro bowler Vince Wilfork, who was entering his prime at this point, and Ty Warren, who made the All-Pro team. Bill Stanfill and Manny Fernandez were both good players, but they don't match the Patriots beef in the trenches. (Slight Edge New England)

Linebackers: Nick Buoniconti was one of the greatest linebackers of all time, however, he was a little bit past his prime at age 32 in this season. The Patriots had two outstanding linebackers in Mike Vrabel and Teddy Bruschi, but they were also aging and past their prime. They also had Junior Seau for this year. (Even)

Secondary: The Patriots had a strong secondary featuring Asante Samuel and Rodney Harrison. However, Harrison was past his prime, yet still a very a good player. The Miami secondary is weak at the corner, but they have great safeties in Dick Anderson and Jake Scott. (Slight Edge Miami)

Coaching: Bill Belichick vs. Don Shula. Both legendary geniuses, although I prefer the incredible game-specific versatile style that Belichick has mastered. But I will call it even.

When you look at the overall talent of both rosters, they are pretty even. However, I would expect this game to be won comfortably by New England. Modern teams have the advantage of knowledge: like in any other sport, we build off the past and we improve. It's called evolution. New England only lost to a Giants team that ran a zone-blitz scheme that was invented years after the 1972 Miami Dolphins. Can anyone guard Randy Moss in a one-on-one matchup, man-to-man defense? This guy would have wrecked these corners with pure speed. The defensive front for Miami would be essentially useless, because Laurence Maloney won't be getting the ball more than 10 times. Eventually, Miami would be forced to abandon their ground game in an inevitable shootout- and it would just keep getting worse. The only way to beat New England is to get to Tom Brady, but you need a really creative way to get through this beast of an offensive line. If Brady has time, it's over.

New England had the fourth best defensive unit in the league this year. This was a veteran team, but that's ok because Miami doesn't possess great speed. I see New England outplaying both sides of the ball. New England 45, Miami 17.
Debate Round No. 1
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by DomriRade4444 2 years ago
DomriRade4444
This is obviously true. Please next time make the two teams more equal.
Posted by Leo.Messi 2 years ago
Leo.Messi
Yes--i am with pro.
Posted by birdlandmemories 2 years ago
birdlandmemories
The 1960s Packer dynasty
Posted by Blade-of-Truth 2 years ago
Blade-of-Truth
Hell yeah. Good luck Pro!
Posted by dtaylor971 2 years ago
dtaylor971
1985 Bears were better bruh.
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