3 divided by 0 equals 3 - Debate Two
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I wish to debate spex on this topic once more (only once), as he still seems unconvinced about this.
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Imagine this: you have 10 sodas. You bring those sodas over to a table where your five friends sit. You say "OK, divide these amongst yourselves." Then you walk away. Each person would take two sodas. 10 (sodas) / 5 (people) = 2 (sodas per person).
Now, you have 10 sodas. You bring those 10 sodas over to a table where zero friends sit. You say "OK, divide these amongst yourselves." Then you walk away. How is it possible that I can divide 10 sodas amongst zero people and get ten?
10 (sodas) / 0 (people) = undefined (no sodas can be given out as it is impossible).
The sodas don't disappear and the sodas aren't destroyed. They still sit there on the table. But you have to realize the answer to a division problem is how many of x item each person gets. If 0 people are there, how can they get 10 sodas?
As well, type 10/0 into a calculator. If it gives 10 you're right. If it gives any other answer I am right.
If you confidently believe after all this 10/0 = 10, then please refute. I'm interesting in hearing your arguments.
Best of luck in round two. Remember this is opening arguments, no rebuttals.
its impossible to share 3 sodas with yourself, yet 3/1=3 why?
3/1=3 is a false equation, but 3 is a true answer
this is the true equation as it can only happen in reality, 3/1(3), like saying don't divide these sodas on the table, nothing happens
As well, opponent states it is impossible to divide with 0. Isn't he going against his original argument? If it is impossible to divide by zero how do I get three?
If I put three sodas on the table, where one friend was, and said "Divide these amongst yourselves" and left, the one friend would get all three sodas. Hence, 3/1=3.
However, as I stated in my original argument, if I put three sodas on the table where zero people are, then say "Divide these amongst yourselves" and left, nobody would get any sodas. There are no people there that can divide them! Therefore 3/0 = undefined, as it is impossible.
Best of luck in R3.
you can not divide with 1, 1 person can not share anything in the world with only himself
"im not saying 3/1=3 is not an equation but its a false equation as it cant happen, it can not equal anything because the action of dividing cant happen"
This is the case with 3/0, not 3/1. 3/1 is still a legitimate equation that is able to happen.
"1 person can not share anything in the world with only himself"
Some division problems actually require the person themselves to divide. If I have 50,000 dollars (which I don't...) and I split it equally into two different categories, save and spend, wouldn't I be dividing with myself?
All of the money is still there, just in different categories.
50,000 (dollars) / (divided into) 2 (categories) = 25,000 dollars per category. I would still have the money but it would be split into different categories.
If there were 0 categories to divide it into, I still have the money, I never said I didn't. They just simply can't be divided.
And to answer your questions in the comments:
"hmm, its like this, i have 2 pencils on my desk, and now i add 1, so i have 3, now i take the tree and divide them no times, and now i add 1 more pencil, how many pencils do i have on my desk?"
In return let me ask you a question:
If I had three sodas, put them out in front of zero people, and asked them to divide it amongst themselves, and walk away. A while later, I return with another soda. How many sodas would there be?
I did no division. It is impossible to divide with zero. As such, no division took place and the sodas are still there. No destruction, just no division. I could not divide by zero as there was no one to divide it between. So if I add a soda, I would have four.
If it is impossible to divide by zero, then why would 3/0=3, as Pro says?
Awaiting R4's arguments.
1 tree divided by itself is 1 tree, 1 tree divided by nothing is 1 tree, its the equivalent of saying 1 tree not divided is 1 tree, or don't divide that 1 tree, same, it doesn't disappear and its not undefined
dividing with 1 is impossible, if you divide the 50.000 into 1 group, how many times have you divided it? and did you lose all your money by not dividing them? no
you would have 4 sodas in your example, 3 on the table and 1 in your hand possibly
"If it is impossible to divide by zero, then why would 3/0=3, as Pro says?"
the thing I claim is, 3/0 does not equal 3, because the equation dosnt go through, if it did, something would become nothing and then go back to being something, which is literally impossible in reality, so the equation is not true, it can not be, therefore 3/0, is just 3, or 3/0(3)
its the same with this, 1+0 does not equal 1, it simply is 1, and nothing happens, therfore 1+0 just means this 1, or 1+0(1) to reveal that it cant happen
"the thing I claim is, 3/0 does not equal 3, because the equation dosnt go through"
Opponent says here that 3/0 does not equal 3, therefore what he's arguing for is wrong, as he said!
Thank you for the debate!
the thing about equations are they are very rigid, but saying 3 divided by 0 is 3, I could be saying 3 divided by 0 is 3 because the equation doesn't go through, would fit, as its language not math, its an explanation not an equation
3/0(3) should be the headline
and don't forget, you wrote that headline when challenging me to this debate :)
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Vote Placed by Zanomi3 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Everything to Con except for sources, seeing as neither side used any. Arguments because clearly, as shown through Con's arguments, 3 divided by 0 does not equal 3. Conduct because Pro did not follow instructions in round 1. Spelling and Grammar because I simply can't follow Pro's logic and writing.
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