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Masturdebater
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Livebriand
Con (against)
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1 Points

A Circle can fit into a square hole.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/16/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Masturdebater

Pro

Definitions: Circle: a closed plane curve consisting of all points at a given distance from a point within it called the center.
Square: a rectangle having all four sides of equal length.
Fit: Being able to exist inside a larger object.

1. A Square Can fit into A circular Hole
My contention today is that a circle can fit in a square hole. This is because if we take a various size circle and put into a various sized square hole, it will fit. There will be a little unfilled space. But it does fit.

I have a small points because his debate is centered around refutation.
Thanks!
Livebriand

Con

This is sometimes the case, but not always. Often, both will have the same square area. This makes it so the circle won't fit in the square. Even if it does it will be VERY tight. It is also quite likely that the circle will have a much longer diameter than the square, thus creating another situation where my opponent's argument will not work.

Therefore my opponent's argument is often false.
Debate Round No. 1
Masturdebater

Pro

The motion clearly states, "A circle CAN fit into a square hole" Not "A circle ALWAYS fits into a square hole"
"can" defined by dictionary.com
to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to.

Obviously a circle has the ability to fit into a square hole because a circle with an area of 2cm squared will definitley fit into a square hole that is 4cm squared.

Even if the fit is very tight, it still means it can fit.

Therefore my argument may often be false, but has the ability to be true, which is all that matters.
Livebriand

Con

But a circle can not always fit into a square hole, as I have previously stated. There are many sizes of circles that cannot fit into a square. Not only will it be tight in many cases, but it MAY NOT FIT AT ALL in many others! Since no sizes have been specified in the motion there is no reason for the motion to be true.
Debate Round No. 2
Masturdebater

Pro

No size definition was needed. The motion states can, which as defined before means "the ability to do" obviously a circle has the ability to fit into a square hole because there of circles of all sizes in the world of Geometry. So we must assume there are an infinite number of sizes for circles and squares. If there were 10 sizes of circles and 10 sizes of squares, than 1/2 of the shapes would fit. If there are infinite numbers of circles and squares, then clearly half will fit together. Not only do circles have the ability to fit into square holes, but half the time they do.

The Motion Stands.
Livebriand

Con

Yes a definition is needed. You have not mentioned the fact that if both are the same square area then the circle will not fit into the square, thus defeating my opponent's definition. My opponent has not given any proof that the amount of situations is half/half, only that there are 2 variables, claiming that it would work half of the time. He has not actually done any calculations! Therefore, the opposition continues to stand, having defeated the proposition.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Masturdebater 7 years ago
Masturdebater
Your mean. It requires a knowledge of math to do this debate.
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
A silly debate about dopey semantics. A 0-0 tie.
Posted by Sorrow 7 years ago
Sorrow
I hate debates like these where the titles are often semantical. Trick debates =/
Posted by Masturdebater 7 years ago
Masturdebater
lolz yes
Posted by Rockylightning 7 years ago
Rockylightning
Conduct=No problems
Spelling and grammar= brian spelled a few things wrong
Arguments=Brian shouldve figured out better refutation to the definition
Sources=Brian stated none, at least debater used dictionary.com
Posted by Masturdebater 7 years ago
Masturdebater
Brian, I actually did some calculations.
Posted by Livebriand 7 years ago
Livebriand
oh... k
Posted by Masturdebater 7 years ago
Masturdebater
I just love debates like this that are short and sweet.
Posted by Masturdebater 7 years ago
Masturdebater
It's this new thing called laughing.
Posted by Livebriand 7 years ago
Livebriand
he he he what?
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