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Mharman
Con (against)
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pumpkinjuice
Pro (for)

A Hillary Clinton presidency.

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Started: 11/2/2016 Category: Politics
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Mharman

Con

Hillary is evil. That is what I stand by. I have many reasons to believe so.

1. Hillary was warned about the Benghazi terrorist attack beforehand, yet she didn't do anything to stop it, and four men were killed because of it. Then, she tried to delete her emails to cover up the evidence and denied everything. Then, she said, "What difference does it make?", a horrible quote that shows how crooked she is.

2. She went after the women her husband seduced during his presidency. I'm not saying these women are completely innocent, but Bill is at fault too. Instead of getting mad at her husband for betraying her, she slams the women he seduced with everything she has. More corruption here.

3. She advocated for her husband in a rape case. In 1975 Bill Clinton raped a girl when she was 12 years old. She then made up a story about how the girl liked fantasizing about older men, and that the sex was with consent. Five years later in an interview, she admitted to the fact that she knew he was guilty. And laughed about it.

4. She has helped many other rapists in their quest for sexual pleasure. She supports Obama's unconstitutional transgender bathroom executive order, that makes it way too easy for rapists to claim they are transgender and then rape a woman.

5. She wants open borders. If she does this, millions of criminals will come from Mexico, and take jobs from real American people. They are bringing crime. A good portion of them are rapists and murderers. They are all illegals.

6. She wants a 550% increase in Syrian refugees. There are a lot of terrorists storming the United States. Once again, they are all illegals. Many of these Muslim men want honor killing. Many have pledged allegiance to ISIS. Many cheered when the World Trade Center came down, and many applaud the attacks today. Also these men love beheading gays and also love raping women. As a matter of fact, in countries like Saudi Arabia, if a woman is raped she called guilty of being a prostitute and dishonoring her family, and is either sentenced to death of jail. And the rapist gets off scot-free.

7. Her campaign is funded by mostly foreigners. Like Saudi Arabia, other foreign leaders, give money to Hillary. This is our country, not theirs, and they are participating in American politics.

8. She wants a private server. Her private server includes nuclear codes, emails, and many other things she wants to hide from the FBI. She lives in secrecy.

9. She wants to expand Obamacare. Obamacare was supposed to make health insurance more affordable, but it ended up fining people for not having insurance.

10. She wants redistribution. She is going to take billions of dollars from the rich, who worked hard to get their money, and tax them to death, and then give it to the lazy moochers who wont get off their butts and contribute to society. Or she uses that money to fund her vacations like Obama did.

11. Her emails reveal how biased the media is. She has bribed CNN, NBC, ABC, BBC, ESPN, FiveThiryEight, The New York Times, and The Washington post to tell people to vote for her, while telling lies about the other candidates.

12. She is a hypocrite. Here are some examples. She says it's a problem when the rich make 300 times the American average. She makes 500 times the american average. Both her and Bernie Sanders are in favor of a $15 dollar minimum wage, but they both pay their interns only $12. In 2008, she says "Since when do democrats target each other on universal health care?", but in 2016, she attacks Bernie Sanders on universal healthcare.

13. She plain lied about her finances. She claims she left the White House broke, and that the Clinton Foundation is non-profit. Both are lies, as she continues to make money form her organization.

14. She is greedy. She has given very little to charity, and when she went to an event, she was upset that there was no money. She also has many Wall Street lobbyists.

15. She's not the one pulling the strings. Her emails also revealed her main mission was to please George Soros, one of her lobbyists. This not her campaign. It's Soros'.

16. She is a feminist. She believes that women are superior, and that all men are sexist. She wants the government to stay out of women's uteruses in her pro-choice stance, but wants the government to fund what they do with their uteruses.

17. She is pro-choice. Abortion is unconstitutional under the Ninth Amendment.

18. She wants to supply terrorists with weapons. She is giving Muslim countries money in her shady business dealings, and they give that money to ISIS.

19. She negotiated the Iran Nuke Deal. In the Iran Nuke Deal, we gave trillions of dollars to Iran so that they could delay their nuclear program for two years, so that Obama wouldn't be in office when he resumed their nuclear weapons program, putting the blame on the next president. Hillary will do the same thing and drag us in even more debt. Also Iran used that money to help ISIS, so, that doesn't help.

20. She is the same old politics. She is a corrupt career politician. A recent poll shows that most Americans want change.
http://www.msnbc.com...
Obama promised change in 2008 and 2012, but he didn't get crap done. Hillary will be the same. She will be just another power-hungry Obama. Mark my words. There will be no change whatsoever if Hillary Clinton becomes president.

P.S. If you go to my profile, you will find that I am 14 years old.
pumpkinjuice

Pro

As a former secretary of state, U.S. senator, first lady, and a lifelong advocate for women and families, no one is more qualified to be president than Hillary.
Hillary knows child care, equal pay, and paid leave are fundamental economic issues"not just "women"s issues."
We can"t afford a temperamentally unfit, manifestly unqualified candidate in the White House.
Our democracy should work for everyone"not just the wealthy and well-connected.
Our next president could make multiple appointments to the Supreme Court.
We need comprehensive background checks on gun purchases.
She"ll fight to overturn Citizens United to curb the outsized influence of big money in politics.
Because the wealthiest should pay their fair share in taxes.
We need comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to full and equal citizenship.
She will tackle the threat of climate change head-on by making America the world"s clean energy superpower"because, unlike her opponent, she doesn"t believe it"s a Chinese hoax.
She"s set a big goal: more than half a billion solar panels installed across the country by the end of her first term.
She"s set another big goal: to generate enough renewable energy to power every home in America within 10 years of her taking officThe economy is stronger when a Democrat is in the White House.
Hillary will defend Planned Parenthood and women"s health care from Republican attacks.
Because debt-free college should be available to all Americans"and current borrowers should be able to refinance their loans and save money.
She will build an economy that works for everybody"not just the top 1 percent.
Guaranteed paid family leave.
She declared on the world stage that "gay rights are human rights."
Because we need a president who has a plan to hold Wall Street accountable.
As first lady, she helped get health care coverage for 8 million American children.
After decades of fighting for progressive issues (and 11 straight hours of testimony in front of a Republican-led congressional committee), she"s proved nobody can stand up to Republicans better than she canOur veterans should have access to timely and high quality health care.
She"s the only candidate with the NRA running ads against her.
Hillary believes that raising middle-class incomes is the defining economic challenge of our time"and she has a plan to do just that.
Suspected terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill shouldn"t be able to purchase a gun.
Because every 4-year-old in America should be able to go to a high-quality preschool in the next 10 years.
We need to invest in infrastructure and rebuild or expand our roads, bridges, rail, broadband, public transit, and water and energy infrastructure.
We need to protect Americans" right to vote"not billionaires" and corporations" right to buy elections.
Have you seen the things Trump says at his rallies?
Have you seen Trump in a debate?
Hillary will work to keep families together and defend President Obama"s executive actions that protect DREAMers.
She has spent her life fighting for a fairer America.
She"s been fighting for women and children her entire career"ever since she started working at the Children"s Defense Fund after law school.
She believes we need a new and comprehensive commitment to equity and opportunity for communities of color.
She"ll empower veterans"and strengthen our economy and communities"by connecting their unique skills to the jobs of the future.
Prescription drug costs are still too high"and Hillary has a plan to lower them.
Debate Round No. 1
Mharman

Con

I will now rebut everything you said.

"As a former secretary of state, U.S. senator, first lady, and a lifelong advocate for women and families, no one is more qualified to be president than Hillary."
She didn't get crap done in her terms, except for the Iran Nuke Deal, which was awful.

"Hillary knows child care, equal pay, and paid leave are fundamental economic issues"not just "women"s issues.""
There is a wage gap because women don't often get jobs, because they often stay at home. Also, with moe men in the workforce, probability states that most high-earning positions are going to be held by men.

"We can"t afford a temperamentally unfit, manifestly unqualified candidate in the White House."
And that's why I want Hillary to lose.

"Our democracy should work for everyone"not just the wealthy and well-connected."
Wrong. It doesn't work for the rich, it works for the hard-working. Plus, Hillary is one of the rich and well connected.

"Our next president could make multiple appointments to the Supreme Court."
And that's a really scary thing about a Hillary presidency.

"We need comprehensive background checks on gun purchases."
Donald Trump isn't against background checks.

"She"ll fight to overturn Citizens United to curb the outsized influence of big money in politics."
And she'll do this by taking bribes from George Soros and foreign countries.

"Because the wealthiest should pay their fair share in taxes."
In other words, the harder you work, the more of your money will take away from you. You might just be jealous of them.

"We need comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to full and equal citizenship."
But Hillary disagrees that said path will be a legal path, and just let anyone in whenever.

"She will tackle the threat of climate change head-on by making America the world"s clean energy superpower"because, unlike her opponent, she doesn"t believe it"s a Chinese hoax."
You could say that global warming is real, because it takes longer for the snow to come every year, but it also takes longer to leave every year. It's an inaccuracy in our calendar, no calendar is perfect.

"She"s set a big goal: more than half a billion solar panels installed across the country by the end of her first term."
Which will cost so much money that by the time she's done with all her projects, we will all be in poverty, exept for career politicians like her.

"She"s set another big goal: to generate enough renewable energy to power every home in America within 10 years of her taking offic"
You just repeated what you said. Also, that sounds like she wants to get rid of two term limit and be in power forever.

"The economy is stronger when a Democrat is in the White House."
*Sarcasm* Yes, because Obama made the economy SOOOO much stronger...

"Hillary will defend Planned Parenthood and women"s health care from Republican attacks."
And will destroy infant health care.

"Because debt-free college should be available to all Americans"and current borrowers should be able to refinance their loans and save money."
Well, how do we pay for college when America is already in so much debt? Pixie dust?

"She will build an economy that works for everybody"not just the top 1 percent."
Bullcrap! She works for George Soros and she IS one of the 1%!

"Guaranteed paid family leave."
The mother is the one with the baby, not the father. Only the mother needs it.

"She declared on the world stage that "gay rights are human rights.""
That's true that they are, and the Republican party believes that they have rights, too. The only difference is that Republicans also believe that gays shouldn't get extra rights over everyone else.

"Because we need a president who has a plan to hold Wall Street accountable."
She won't do that, she's just going to take their bribes.

"As first lady, she helped get health care coverage for 8 million American children."
No, that was Senator Kennedy that did that. I even fact checked it.

"After decades of fighting for progressive issues (and 11 straight hours of testimony in front of a Republican-led congressional committee), she"s proved nobody can stand up to Republicans better than she canOur veterans should have access to timely and high quality health care."
That's why she took healthcare from veterans and gave it to Planned Parenthood. Also her emails prove that her testimony was full of lies and perjury. It doesn't take much effort to just deny everything. One more thing. "Progressive is not a very good term for the Democrats, as they have been putting America down the drain since Jimmy Carter.

"She"s the only candidate with the NRA running ads against her."
That's because she hates the right to self protection guaranteed under the Second Amendment.

"Hillary believes that raising middle-class incomes is the defining economic challenge of our time"and she has a plan to do just that."
By turning the upper class into the lower class, not helping the lower class, and destroying the middle class. My father owns a small business and my family is in the middle class. He's getting taxed at 45 percent right now.

"Suspected terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill shouldn"t be able to purchase a gun."
Her opponent agrees with her on terrorists and the mentally ill, but former criminals can turn a new leaf.

"Because every 4-year-old in America should be able to go to a high-quality preschool in the next 10 years."
We already do have good quality preschool. And if your talking about public schools, then maybe the government should let them fund theirselves instead of ruining schools.

"We need to invest in infrastructure and rebuild or expand our roads, bridges, rail, broadband, public transit, and water and energy infrastructure."
That what Trump plans to do. Hillary plans to keep most of the money and give the rest to the lazy moochers on welfare.

"We need to protect Americans" right to vote"not billionaires" and corporations" right to buy elections."
Yet Hillary the hypocrite is taking bribes from Wall Street.

"Have you seen the things Trump says at his rallies?"
Yup. He plans on restoring America to the Reagan years, when you earned what you got.

"Have you seen Trump in a debate?"
Yes. He smoked Hillary in the last two debates.

"Hillary will work to keep families together and defend President Obama"s executive actions that protect DREAMers."
Trump will protect the DOers. And nothing says keeping families together like taxing them more.

"She has spent her life fighting for a fairer America."
No, she's spent her life fighting for power and money.

"She"s been fighting for women and children her entire career"ever since she started working at the Children"s Defense Fund after law school."
And somehow she forgot the law and Constitution like she forgets everything else.

"She believes we need a new and comprehensive commitment to equity and opportunity for communities of color."
Trump believes that too. But this racism crap is nothing more than something the Democrats use to stir up people and get more voters. She doesn't care about minorities, she just wants blue voters. Trump will fix the inner cities.

"She"ll empower veterans"and strengthen our economy and communities"by connecting their unique skills to the jobs of the future."
By removing their funds and social security.

"Prescription drug costs are still too high"and Hillary has a plan to lower them."
By having more taxes. It's the company's job to lower them, and they do that by finding cheaper ways to make their product while keeping the same quality. They are motivated by business competition to do this.

Hillary is a lair, hypocrite, and baby who will do nothing about ISIS, and bring the same old politics. She will obey everything her corporate backers tell her to to. Also, in unrelated news, my seven year old sister can type better than you.
pumpkinjuice

Pro

In any normal election year, we"d compare the two presidential candidates side by side on the issues. But this is not a normal election year. A comparison like that would be an empty exercise in a race where one candidate " our choice, Hillary Clinton " has a record of service and a raft of pragmatic ideas, and the other, Donald Trump, discloses nothing concrete about himself or his plans while promising the moon and offering the stars on layaway. (We will explain in a subsequent editorial why we believe Mr. Trump to be the worst nominee put forward by a major party in modern American history.)

But this endorsement would also be an empty exercise if it merely affirmed the choice of Clinton supporters. We"re aiming instead to persuade those of you who are hesitating to vote for Mrs. Clinton " because you are reluctant to vote for a Democrat, or for another Clinton, or for a candidate who might appear, on the surface, not to offer change from an establishment that seems indifferent and a political system that seems broken.

Running down the other guy won"t suffice to make that argument. The best case for Hillary Clinton cannot be, and is not, that she isn"t Donald Trump.

The best case is, instead, about the challenges this country faces, and Mrs. Clinton"s capacity to rise to them.

The next president will take office with bigoted, tribalist movements and their leaders on the march. In the Middle East and across Asia, in Russia and Eastern Europe, even in Britain and the United States, war, terrorism and the pressures of globalization are eroding democratic values, fraying alliances and challenging the ideals of tolerance and charity.

The 2016 campaign has brought to the surface the despair and rage of poor and middle-class Americans who say their government has done little to ease the burdens that recession, technological change, foreign competition and war have heaped on their families.

Over 40 years in public life, Hillary Clinton has studied these forces and weighed responses to these problems. Our endorsement is rooted in respect for her intellect, experience, toughness and courage over a career of almost continuous public service, often as the first or only woman in the arena.

Mrs. Clinton"s work has been defined more by incremental successes than by moments of transformational change. As a candidate, she has struggled to step back from a pointillist collection of policy proposals to reveal the full pattern of her record. That is a weakness of her campaign, and a perplexing one, for the pattern is clear. It shows a determined leader intent on creating opportunity for struggling Americans at a time of economic upheaval and on ensuring that the United States remains a force for good in an often brutal world.

Similarly, Mrs. Clinton"s occasional missteps, combined with attacks on her trustworthiness, have distorted perceptions of her character. She is one of the most tenacious politicians of her generation, whose willingness to study and correct course is rare in an age of unyielding partisanship. As first lady, she rebounded from professional setbacks and personal trials with astounding resilience. Over eight years in the Senate and four as secretary of state, she built a reputation for grit and bipartisan collaboration. She displayed a command of policy and diplomatic nuance and an ability to listen to constituents and colleagues that are all too exceptional in Washington.

Mrs. Clinton"s record of service to children, women and families has spanned her adult life. One of her boldest acts as first lady was her 1995 speech in Beijing declaring that women"s rights are human rights. After a failed attempt to overhaul the nation"s health care system, she threw her support behind legislation to establish the Children"s Health Insurance Program, which now covers more than eight million lower-income young people. This year, she rallied mothers of gun-violence victims to join her in demanding comprehensive background checks for gun buyers and tighter reins on gun sales.

After opposing driver"s licenses for undocumented immigrants during the 2008 campaign, she now vows to push for comprehensive immigration legislation as president and to use executive power to protect law-abiding undocumented people from deportation and cruel detention. Some may dismiss her shift as opportunistic, but we credit her for arriving at the right position.

Mrs. Clinton and her team have produced detailed proposals on crime, policing and race relations, debt-free college and small-business incentives, climate change and affordable broadband. Most of these proposals would benefit from further elaboration on how to pay for them, beyond taxing the wealthiest Americans. They would also depend on passage by Congress.

That means that, to enact her agenda, Mrs. Clinton would need to find common ground with a destabilized Republican Party, whose unifying goal in Congress would be to discredit her. Despite her political scars, she has shown an unusual capacity to reach across the aisle.

When Mrs. Clinton was sworn in as a senator from New York in 2001, Republican leaders warned their caucus not to do anything that might make her look good. Yet as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, she earned the respect of Republicans like Senator John McCain with her determination to master intricate military matters.

Her most lasting achievements as a senator include a federal fund for long-term health monitoring of 9/11 first responders, an expansion of military benefits to cover reservists and the National Guard, and a law requiring drug companies to improve the safety of their medications for children.

Below the radar, she fought for money for farmers, hospitals, small businesses and environmental projects. Her vote in favor of the Iraq war is a black mark, but to her credit, she has explained her thinking rather than trying to rewrite that history.

As secretary of state, Mrs. Clinton was charged with repairing American credibility after eight years of the Bush administration"s unilateralism. She bears a share of the responsibility for the Obama administration"s foreign-policy failings, notably in Libya. But her achievements are substantial. She led efforts to strengthen sanctions against Iran, which eventually pushed it to the table for talks over its nuclear program, and in 2012, she helped negotiate a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.

Mrs. Clinton led efforts to renew diplomatic relations with Myanmar, persuading its junta to adopt political reforms. She helped promote the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an important trade counterweight to China and a key component of the Obama administration"s pivot to Asia. Her election-year reversal on that pact has confused some of her supporters, but her underlying commitment to bolstering trade along with workers" rights is not in doubt. Mrs. Clinton"s attempt to reset relations with Russia, though far from successful, was a sensible effort to improve interactions with a rivalrous nuclear power.

Mrs. Clinton has shown herself to be a realist who believes America cannot simply withdraw behind oceans and walls, but must engage confidently in the world to protect its interests and be true to its values, which include helping others escape poverty and oppression.
Mrs. Clinton"s husband, Bill Clinton, governed during what now looks like an optimistic and even gentle era. The end of the Cold War and the advance of technology and trade appeared to be awakening the world"s possibilities rather than its demons. Many in the news media, and in the country, and in that administration, were distracted by the scandal du jour " Mr. Clinton"s impeachment " during the very period in which a terrorist threat was growing. We are now living in a world darkened by the realization of that threat and its many consequences.
Mrs. Clinton"s service spans both eras, and she has learned hard lessons from the three presidents she has studied up close. She has also made her own share of mistakes. She has evinced a lamentable penchant for secrecy and made a poor decision to rely on a private email server while at the State Department. That decision deserved scrutiny, and it"s had it. Now, considered alongside the real challenges that will occupy the next president, that email server, which has consumed so much of this campaign, looks like a matter for the help desk. And, viewed against those challenges, Mr. Trump shrinks to his true small-screen, reality-show proportions, as we"ll argue in detail on Monday.

Through war and recession, Americans born since 9/11 have had to grow up fast, and they deserve a grown-up president. A lifetime"s commitment to solving problems in the real world qualifies Hillary Clinton for this job, and the country should put her to work
PS I feel bad for your sister having to live with someone that is a homophobic and against women's rights
Debate Round No. 2
Mharman

Con

My response to the first paragraph:
First off, he is not buying and selling stars. That is the dumbest thing I have heard out of you during this debate. i didn't think it was even possible that you could say anything dumber until you said that. Meanwhile, you give no explanation of her ideas. Also, her record of service was just her serving herself.

Second paragraph response:
This whole argument is huge bias.

Third paragraph:
This debate isn't about Donald Trump. Donald Trump being bad doesn't make Hillary good. In fact, most voters believe that they both suck completely and that America is doomed either way.

Fourth:
Like the Iran Nuke Deal. You know, that time when we gave trillions of dollars to Iran to delay their nuclear weapons program for two years, so that Obama wouldn't be president when they resumed. That deal was the same thing as a ransom, bribe, or paying a tribute because we were scared. Wake up America! We are the world's strongest country, and we're afraid of IRAN?!

Fifth:
She funded by those countries in the Middle East. She isn't going to do crap about them. Also, globalization is a democratic value that your party supports. See! You don't even fully know what your party stands for! Also, in this world, the only way to peace is through war.

Sixth:
Yes, it has. My family is middle class, and Obama raised my father's income tax to 45 percent! Hillary will only raise his taxes! In fact, the current government has made thing worse on the middle class! If Hillary was for the middle class, she wouldn't be suppportive of what Obama did to the middle class!

Seventh:
Hillary's only been helping herself. Also, you amitted that her being a woman is one of your reasons for voting for her. That sexist against men! Just because Hillary is a woman doesn't mean that she will be good!

Eighth:
SUCCESS?! She didn't get crap done during any of her government work! She just shows up and steals all the credit! And you just said that her having a weakness means she'll be better.

Ninth:
OCCASIONAL MISSTEPS?! She did those on purpose! Her emails reveald who she really is, and no lie from her is going to change that! TENACIOUS?! Forty years ago she was against black rights, and ten years ago she was against the gays! How can you all a flip-flop candidate tenacious?! As first lady, she attacked the young women her husband seduced! Diplomatic nuance?! The secret service finds her a diplomatic nuisance! They find her a nightmare to work with!

Tenth:
Service?! She's only served herself! Also she can't be in favor of women and children, considering she is an advocate for rapists! She took the credit for that child healthcare bill! She has completely crapped on the Second Amendment, too. Also, you make it sound like it's the gun's fault! Guns are inanimate objects! It is the person, not the gun!

Eleventh:
She's flip-floppity like a pancake! First, she flip-flops on the "driver's license for illegal immigrants" thing, then she flip-flops on how she view marrage! She also was against black rights forty years ago, and flip-flopped on that! Now, maybe King Jr. changed her mind on the last one, but there is no excuse for the other two! She flip-flops for political convenience!

Twelth:
First, it has been proven that police officers are actually MORE RELUCTANT to shoot blacks! I encourage you to look at the links at the end of the argument for this. Also, climate change is fake. It is an inaccuracy in our calendar, we have nothing to worry about here. Of course, if you are still convinced of its existence, there are tin foil hats on EBay. And, really?! More taxes for the rich?! They earned that money, stop being jealous of their work ethic! Also how are we supposed to pay for all of this stuff? Pixie dust?

Thirteenth:
THe Republican party isn't defunct. She has no political scars, but she has left some on America.

Fourteenth:
John McCain beame a liberal... Also she has less then a fifth of the military vote.

Fifteenth:
9/11 responders are also voting against her by a huge margin. Once again, she has taken all of the credit for everything.

Sixteenth:
First off, farms and hospitals are businesses. Remember my dad? He owns a small business chain, proving that you are only correct about her funding for the useless environmental projects, which weaken our economy even more. Also, the Iran war on terror is another flip-flop. Lastly, if we, the most powerful country in the world, is scared of terrorists, then we are lacking the confidence we need.

Seventeenth:
Credibility?! After all of those scandals?! Yeah, right. And yes the Obama administration failed on foreign policy, something we agree on for once. Again, in amitting that that, you negated the rest of your argument for this paragraph. Also, unilateralism is an idea your party supports, not the Republican party, another thing you got wrong about your own party.

Eighteenth:
No, that was the ambassadors that did all of that stuff. And again, MORE flip-flops for her own convenience. Yet again you amitted to how big of a failure she was with foreign policies, one of the things critical to this election. This negates any pro Hillary foreign policy arguments you can come up with for the rest of this debate, and previous arguments of the same kind during this debate.

Nineteenth:
The wall is not a retreat method. It is a defense. We have been great on offence, but our defense is terrible right now. Also, who are you to talk about retreat? Hillary plans to retreat by paying taxpayer tribute money to other countries.

Twentieth:
Optimistic?! Again and again, you continue to brush over the scandals Hillary and Bill have been involved in, only giving the issue one sentence so far, and it was in this paragraph. Bill did nothing about the terrorists and allowed them to GROW. We are living in this dark world because we never really took care of terrorism before it started, and it started during the Clinton era, as you admitted.

Twenty-first:
Again, more irrelevant arguments about her accomplishments that have been proven incorrect. The email server wouldn't have problems if it weren't for HilLIARy. And a matter for the help desk?! She intentionally deleted those emails to hide evidence under a subpeona! That... is a justice issue. A huge one. And again, we are not arguing on Trump, we are arguing on Hillary.

Twenty-second:
Grown-up?! Not with all those scandals and the same old politics! So, you have amitted that she was a total screw-up on major positions, and you think America should let her have a go at the MOST IMPORTANT POSITION OF THEM ALL?!?!?!?!?!

PS notice:
GREAT! Just WONDERFUL! You now just resort to insulting me! AMAZING! First, I am not afraid of gay people, but I am againts homosexuality. Second, I find it a good thing that thay have the Constitutional right of everyone else. Third, women have rights, and I am a strong supporter of their rights. Fourth, although both of these groups of people have their rights, the government has put theirs on a higher platform than everybody else's rights, and that is wrong. Ah, yes, Democrats, the party of tolerance. Unless you politely disagree with them. Then you are automatically, a racist, sexist, Islamophobic, xenophobic, homophobic, inbred, stupid hater. The two things they can't tolerate are Patriotism and Conservatives, which go hand in hand, in my opinion.

FINAL ARGUMENT
These are many reasons to vote con and anti Hillary. To start throughout this debate, I have proven Hillary's corruption, and that the trio of the Cintons and Obama deserve to be in jail. During this debate, pro has defended Hillary on foreign policy, and then turns around and amits her failure in foreign policy. This flip-flop happens every other paragraph. He has also failed to rubut anything I have said. He has shown poor conduct, grammar, and spelling throughout this debate. He has made irrelevant, false arguments that have proven to be lies. He also has partially made this argument about Trump, even though this debate is about Hillary. He has fixated on the logic, that since Trump isn't good, Hillary must be very good, ignoring many surveys that show most people find that they both suck. This is ironic considering he talked about "the real world" so much. He has ingnored or belittled every Clinton/Obama scandal, instead of defending her. He even said on reason for voting for her is that she is a woman, which is actually sexist against men, in an ironic twist. He even went as far as to insult me. There also many reasons why I believe Hillary Rodham Clinton would be a terrible president of the United States of America, and will fail to uphold any honor America has left. For some of these, look at my opening statement. Which, by the way, Overnight has said that there is no evidence on either side. That is because my opening argument is all universal facts, and universal facts don't need evidence, they are already proven facts. Meanwhile, his argument is composed of promisises Hillary has made, which need evidence, but there are none, as he has failed to support his claim. For more arguments, continue reading this. Hillary has left trash out of our country. She has moral, mental, and physically incapabilities. She has been way too sick lately, she has that spasm thing, and she has let her husband get away with his crimes. Her doctor has even told her that she isn't healthy enough to run for president, and she just plain ignored him. She ufit to be president, and if she is elected, she will be the worst president ever, topping even Obama and her husband. This is why I have chosen my stance. Vote con.

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Mharman 1 month ago
Mharman
Shoot. The font glitched out on me and now one of my arguments is super tiny.
Posted by TheRealSpassky101 1 month ago
TheRealSpassky101
There are worst candidates.
Posted by ILikePie5 1 month ago
ILikePie5
Hill-Shills are crazy and can't defend Hillary. They ALWAYS blame Russia, remember! I can destroy any Hillary Supporter on the issue of Hillary Clinton? Child care? What about defending a child rapist and laughing about it? What about all of those donations from the Middle East where gays are executed and women have no rights? The hypocrisy!
Posted by Overnight 1 month ago
Overnight
No evidence from either side.
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