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A Perfect Utopia is Possible

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Started: 8/3/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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rafalaf

Con

Round1 - Layout
Round2 - presentation of points
Round3 - rebutalls
Round4 - counter rebutalls

Rules...
- My opponent is not permitted to the final round.
- No trolling
- No profanity
- Only constructive criticism

Definitions...
- Perfect = having no mistakes or flaws.
- Utopia = a place of ideal perfection especially in laws, government, and social conditions.
- Possible = being within the limits of ability, capacity, or realization.

Citations...
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marymac150

Pro

I would love to debate this topic. Let's do it!
Debate Round No. 1
rafalaf

Con

rafalaf forfeited this round.
marymac150

Pro

Think about it this way
Perfect by definition means "when something is as good as it can possibly be"
Everyone, however, has a very different idea of what is good.
If everyone had the same definition of perfection, then a perfect utopia WOULD be achievable. The question of this debate was not is a perfect utopia REALISTICALLY possible, but simply is it possible? And the answer is yes, it is. Just like it's possible that there is a God, and that there is alien life in other galaxies, that there are ghosts and spirits that haunt the earth, and I think you get the idea. A perfect utopia is possible once a universal definition of perfection has been established.
Debate Round No. 2
rafalaf

Con

1st point

When I was younger, I used to say "Everything is possible, but that does not mean everything can be achieved." What I forgot to answer in that quote is that somethings were already proven not achievable. Such as that dogs can fly but they don't have wings. Logic, easily proves to us that it is not able to be achieved.

2nd point

As I stated in the layout, that the definition of Utopia is "a place of ideal perfection especially in laws, government, and social conditions." if you think about it logically the past also has an influence on modern people. For example Poland is still expecting an invasion either from Germany or Russia, especially now with Putin's attack on Ukraine. Everyone is expecting an invasion from somewhere. France started building a new prototype of aircraft, called the Rafale.
Also the Germans have made a MQ-9 Reaper. My point is that the countries are too afraid of a war to unite and form a Utopia. To add on, if a country conquered the world, the people of other countries are going to hate citizens from the main country.

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marymac150

Pro

marymac150 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
rafalaf

Con

Rebutall 1

The problem about one of the points you have given is that there is a worldwide definition of perfection is having no mistakes or flaws. People might twist the definition of perfection to complement someone.

Rebutall 2

As I stated in the layout, the definition of Perfect is having no mistakes or flaws. Please do not change this a s you did in the 2nd round.

Point 1

By this definition of perfect, perfection is unachievable.

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marymac150

Pro

marymac150 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by rafalaf 2 years ago
rafalaf
Pro is not to be judged by forfeiting the last round.(I'm posting this unknowing if she actually does.) If she doesn't she is disobeying the rules that I posted in the layout.
Posted by rafalaf 2 years ago
rafalaf
Sorry for the forefeit. I was installing Windows 10, and it took longer than suspected.
Posted by srhelsel609 2 years ago
srhelsel609
Impossible. Perfection can not be sustained. Nothing Gold Can stay!
Posted by tejretics 2 years ago
tejretics
Of course it's not possible.
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