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A SkyLift or a Tram Must Be Built for Batu Caves

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Started: 4/11/2013 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lelaiskandarsuhaimi

Pro

Batu Caves limestone temple in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia is one of the most visited limestone temple outside India. You could only reach it if you are fit enough to scale 272 steps and fight the monkeys manning the stairs.

Shouldn't the authority build some form of automatic lifting system to help the elderly and tourists to take them on the temples?

Forget the tradition. Should religion accepts modernization too ?

Reference:
http://www.jomjalan.com...
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ChayNewman

Con

My argument is this,
The Batu Caves is an amazing structure said to have been around for around 400 million years. too install a tram would be nothing short of defacing the architectural feat. Furthermore, it would surely be more likely to turn tourist away seeing as it had been defaced in such a crude manor. Lastly, the cost to install such a system would be large and it would have to make tourists pay to see this beautiful limestone hill
Debate Round No. 1
lelaiskandarsuhaimi

Pro

I agree that it is an amazing structure. That is the reason why we need a tram/sky lift -- so that more people, the elderly, the children and the handicapped could also see it.

The Swiss has successfully installed a cable car in Gunung Mat Chincang in Langkawi, Malaysia without damaging the ecosystem. I think they can do it in Batu Caves too.

As for the cost, I think the Malaysian government could use the same system it has used before -- those who want to use the cable car must pay, but those who prefer to scale the stairs could do it for free, just like it has always been.

The cable car will definitely attract more tourists, and in the long run, the investment will be worth it.

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ChayNewman

Con

Until sufficient surveys have been taken there's no way to tell if the public would be in favour of such an ambitious build although from past attempts it's clear that the public generally aren't in favour of tarnishing such a, beautiful, ancient piece of land. Furthermore, there's no way to tell whether or not people would opt to use the cable car due to what would presumably be high costs to travel to the top, therefore it could prove to be a waste of money. We're having this debate on the grounds that the Malaysian government would allow this and that they would fund it. All in all it seems rather a large risk too take for such a questionable build.
Debate Round No. 2
lelaiskandarsuhaimi

Pro

The cable cars in Gunung Mat Cincang, Langkawi is a huge hit -- the number of people waiting to get to those cable cars could be as long as a few hundred during the school holidays. The fee is quite high, but it is considered one of the best attraction of the island. It should be the same in Batu Caves, probably better.

The Thaipusam festival celebrated here around February each year sees over 1 million devotees/visitors each year. 2 days festival, and over 1 million people -- I say there's a massive market there. Not only that, since it is one of the most visited attractions in Kuala Lumpur, the site receives thousands of daily visitors each day. I don't think we have problem with the demand.

Malaysian government are known to endorse mega projects like the Petronas Towers (tallest building in the world in 1997), Formula 1 Circuit etc. This will be a very small project compared to those I mentioned.

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ChayNewman

Con

ChayNewman forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
In future please post unvoted debates on the forum.
Posted by lelaiskandarsuhaimi 3 years ago
lelaiskandarsuhaimi
If you want to. Of course, the stairs should stay, but the trams should be an alternative way of getting to the temples
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
Do you want me to take this? I can pretty much guarantee disproving your claim.

Basically my argument would deal in free admission vs the cost of the luxury suggested.
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