A Society in which nothing is secure
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Russell Kirk in his book,"The CONSERVATIVE MIND" wrote this about about America's people and the unsettle conditions in which they are living today, "Our great danger lies in the radical tendency which has become so wide, deep, and active in the American people. Ceasing to regard anything as sacred or venerable, spurning what is old, injuring what is fixed, setting adrift all religious, domestic, and social institutions, we borrow nothing from the past and ignore the data of experience. We even try to deny that language has exact meaning. " A nation can not survive without an established order allowing people to live in harmony with each other as a civil society, America 's unsettled state of affairs can not continue without the dissolution of this nation and a nation ripe for a tyrant to rule over them.
First we should look at how this country is run now. Huge amounts of debt, a tax code over 73,000 pages long, a book on the laws that rivals the tax code book where the average person commits about 3 felonies per day, the list could go on and on. Now in order to understand how we got here, I think my opponent would like us to go back to the constitution. However I proclaim that the constitution has never had any authority at all, except for those who signed it. I also proclaim that the u.s. government has put the people who live here in more turmoil and it is not the "radical tendency which has become so wide, deep, and active in the american people.".
In today's day and age, the "founding fathers" would be considered radical extremists. They went to war over 2% taxation while we accept 30 to 40% without blinking an eye. The mere thought of an income tax during those times would be considered treason! Handing the "power" to print money over to a private bank, waging wars without the approval of congress, etc would all be considered tyrannical by no stretch of the imagination. Today people are conditioned NOT to see these things as tyrannical.
What do the american people do? We work, play, enjoy company of others, have dinner with our kids, and for the most part, voluntarily interact with people in a peaceful manner not because a government tells us to do so, but because this is universally preferable behavior (upb for short). I don't want to be killed therefore I wont kill. I don't want to be stolen from therefore I wont steal. Of course we have people with some screws loose however, in any social environment we would as well.
I am taking the argument that we cant go back to the constitution because it failed to keep the u.s. government small enough to manage and cannot, by law and reason, ever do what it was created to do. I will wait to hear if my opponent disagrees, and believes that we need to go back to the constitution. From there we can have a debate!
Plato once said,"The object of knowledge is what exists and its function to know about reality. It would seem apparent that when a society and its leaders lose their ability to discern reality from illusions that as the title of this debate, "A Society in which nothing is secure," notes, that society is primed for dissolution and it is only a matter of time before a tyrant is set over the people who determines the people's reality for them.The people's problem once a tyrant rules over them To paraphrase Plato's Quote The people will then ,under a tyrant , ....have "Knowledge"...of....what "exists" but will be powerless to change that ..... reality..." Obama and the leftist democrats have ignored reality as it presently exists, and of their making, and talk insistently about change, that change of which they are the author,has resulted in "A Society in which nothing is secure."
I'm sorry that I haven't responded sooner with my rebuttal but I will dissect your response point by point and hope thatIi will be persuasive and informative enough to perhaps convert you over to my point of view in the end. I appreciate the fact that you went to the effort to enter this debate with me and it wasn't out of disregard for you or your point of view that i haven't replied ,it was just that I didn't have the time to reply, I will try to do better, thanks again for entering the debate with me.
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