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Firesean98
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TranquilSpirit
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A Unknown is a true creator

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TranquilSpirit
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Started: 1/4/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Firesean98

Pro

If you truly think about life itself and how it all came to be you are clueless. You may say you can to be dinosaurs and mysterious items to be discovered. Where does that prove we came from them or it. We had been created one way or another but life itself is unexplainable because if you were created, who created you, who created them, and it continues till your lost to universe yourself. The creator not God because a God must be created and creator is the only definition to are mind that explains a unknown power of birth and death. Most of this is opinion but if you can have a fact on how everything started prove it. The planets crashed a formed a earth like world, well how did those two planets come to be. This logic is beyond are minds and the only explaination I can come with is this. You be saying well this logic of thinking who made this creator that is the mystery that doesn't answer on its own.
TranquilSpirit

Con

You say, "If you truly think about life itself and how it all came to be you are clueless." Yet, to come to the opinion which you have stated here, you had to "think about" the issues that make us "clueless." To claim there is a creator, but it wasn't God, is fallacy. The definition of creator, is a person or thing that brings something into existence. To claim that there is a creator, yet no God, is contradictory. There is no evidence to prove or disprove God. Who is God? What is God? If God created us, who created God? If the universe created us, who created the universe? The universe can be traced back to its origins roughly 13.8 years ago. Before this, there was nothing. Yet, the universe came from "nothing." Well, if God is nothing, can we not come from Him?
Debate Round No. 1
Firesean98

Pro

Firesean98 forfeited this round.
TranquilSpirit

Con

Following religious texts, such as the Bible, often raises questions about such text when science is proving otherwise. However, we must realize that humans created religion, not God. Who, or what God is, we won't know until our time has run out on Earth. But to claim He doesn't exist, simply in terms of lack of evidence isn't a proper statement as someone else can say that God does exist as there is no evidence to disprove Him. Too many people are out to prove, or disprove God. However, we must realize there is no such way of ever doing so. No scientific equation will ever equal 'No God.' Instead of trying to prove/disprove God, we should be trying to discover ourselves. Through self-discovery we usually find the answers that we are looking for. Whether we believe in God, or not, it's still a belief, based on one's own perception of the universe. We must respect everyone's belief, as no one will truly know until we are dead.
Debate Round No. 2
Firesean98

Pro

Firesean98 forfeited this round.
TranquilSpirit

Con

As there has been no further argument, I'm just going to keep this simple. Don't claim that there is no God simply because you believe in science, or don't believe in the Bible. Do some soul searching. Go walking in the woods and find a nice place to sit down. Come into harmony with nature. Look inside yourself, and find your purpose. Open your mind to the possibility of God, and you may find more that you expected to find.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Zarium 1 year ago
Zarium
Con - I think Pro is trying to show, that we have a better chancing of finding if there is a creator NOW, than say 2016 years ago, and that by following that logic, that would mean god is created, then is not the creator, simply something a creator (humans) had created?
It opens the dynamics of the discussion up greatly, and for that alone I love this debate.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
how do you know
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Humans are now able to create and understand life. We can not create a god...Humans do not create nothing..Only in our minds...
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Grand parrents..Abe like grand.grand,grands...Multi cells..One cell..Pre cell...Atom..
Posted by Firesean98 1 year ago
Firesean98
You are free to express your thoughts on the subject because I am always wanting to see other people's opinions. The guy who stated your parents you can read and understand the logic right?
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
The creators are called "moms ad dads"...Moms sometimes says that the dad is unknown.. Sometimes It is caled god..
Posted by Zarium 1 year ago
Zarium
Verily, i wish to debate with you.

I feel we are in what I have since named as the "Sanguine Loop".

Further clarification will be provided if accepted, however the basic listing is as follows :
"Life exists
Purpose exists
Creation exits
Therefore we are created
We were created, because life exists
We have purpose, as we have life
We are life, because we can create life
We create, therefore we must be created
For one to be created, One must create their creator."

Religion is the logical stopper to this loop, which I will clarify if accepted - also why I would like to debate the 'Unknown Creator' idea with you, with gusto and other words of excitement.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 1 year ago
lannan13
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