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# A number not always represent the same thing, therefore 1 not always equal 1.

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 11/27/2012 Category: Miscellaneous Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 2,620 times Debate No: 27570
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Posted by narmak 5 years ago
you are saying 2choclate bars =4 half bars ergo 2=4(1/2) go to simplify 2=4/2 again one more time 2=2

or you can go like this if you want an equation 2=x(1/2) where x is the number of half bars.

just because they refer to different things doesnt mean 2 doesnt always equal 2.

2 half bars equal 1 bar so math 1/2+1/2=1 so 4 halfbars mean 1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2=2
Posted by Cometflash 5 years ago
Correct, but the answer 2 does not provide that the answer is 2 in parts, of each being a half. The answer is simply 2. You don't say that 1 / 1/2=1, even know that should be consider true, if you take into account that the answer 2 means 2 half bars, and 2 half bars are equal to 1 bar.
Posted by narmak 5 years ago
comet bar of chocolate = 2 half bars of chocolate." so this is your equation 1=2(1/2) which simplifiess to 1=1

But 2 bars of chocolates doesn't equal 2 half bars of chocolates

two bars of choclate = 4 half bars of choclate so again you have 2=4(1/2) which is the same as 2=2
Posted by iamnotwhoiam 5 years ago
I read the debate, but I have no idea what is meant by "sending" apples to apples. Nor did I have a clue why both parties were talking in terms of a rate of "apples per apple".
Posted by Cometflash 5 years ago
"Does 1 = 2? No, however:
1 bar of chocolate = 2 half bars of chocolate."

This is pretty much why I said, that an equation on the right that uses addition won't equal the same value on the equation to the left that uses division. I understand that 2 halves of chocolate is the same as 1 whole bar. But 2 bars of chocolates doesn't equal 2 half bars of chocolates. So if you start with two equations one in the right and one in the left, one using adition and on using division, the number you arrive at might not represent the same thing, even if you start with 1 bar of a chocolate in both sides.

You can still try to fix my brain up via PM if you like. :p
Posted by Cometflash 5 years ago
@RoyLatham
The only reason I created such of debate was to gain understanding of what is taught. I actually wanted to end with me understanding and in consequence losing the debate, this why I concentrate more towards understanding what my opponent had to say than my own view.

Believe it or not I was great in math while in shool, but I never really thought about it, I just took the rules that were given to follow and went with it. So even know I was good in math, I guess I didn't had much of understanding.
I used to not understand why some had such of problem with math, maybe the reason is while they were learning, they try to understand, and like me right now, they just could not see it.
Posted by GorefordMaximillion 5 years ago
To quote wrichcirw:

"Dear god this is terrible: ... Yes it does. Fail."

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Posted by GorefordMaximillion 5 years ago
To quote RoyLatham:

"If we compare 1 apple to 1 orange, it shouldn't be difficult to understand that the "1" in both cases are identical even though what the "1" represents may vary..."

Worded better then I could word it!
Posted by RoyLatham 5 years ago
You say "even when beginning from the same object doesn't end up representing the same thing." the pint is that numbers are abstractions and what they represent is a separate issue.

It is the Instigators responsibility to make coherent and understandable resolution.
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