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AOW war debate, The asian country vs european country (asia pro europe con)

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Started: 5/22/2015 Category: Miscellaneous
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Although I am NOT part of AOW, I`m having another war debate! This one is ASIA vs EUROPE.


Any country with two continents combined (russia, turkey) are banned.

1. When you accept the debate, state your country, and state the numbers of your armed forces (aircraft, men, ships, etc.). Use this source for military numbers ONLY, as it is the most reliable:;

2. Each country's turn can range from about 3 days to 60 days long, so all actions must be in accordance with this time period. (DO NOT try to win in one turn! Take into account that your opponent is also a living, thinking being that can adapt to a situation.)

3. Morale is a key factor in your armed forces' effectiveness.

4. You may produce more military forces (soldiers, ships, aircraft, tanks/humvees/cavalry), but it depends on your military budget, your country's population, and how industrialized your nation is.

5. I am defending.

6. The defender makes the first move.

7. The defender's primary military objective is to remove the attacker's forces from the defender's territory. The attacker's primary military objective is to annex the other country, or destroy it (physically, economically, etc). Secondary military objectives can be made by the debaters if they wish. Fulfillment of the military objectives is victory. If either side fails to fulfill their set objectives, the voters are free to reasonably determine the winner based off of who was more successful in completing their objectives.

8. If a nation's capital is destroyed/liberated, this does not necessarily mean that the war is won; the capital could be recaptured. If one of the debaters destroys or controls the administration of the opposing country, OR if the opposing country is destroyed to the point of no administration, then that debater is immediately guaranteed a 7-point victory.

9. Every aspect of the war must be realistic and must remain within the parameters established by the rules and the title. Any unrealistic action and actions deviating from the rules will cause the entire action to be void. Any further deviation after the first void action will result in a complete debate forfeiture.

10. You can have ONLY ONE WMD (Chooses WMD). WMD is to be used as a last resort. It can only be used if there is an extreme threat to the nation or your army. IF a WMD is to be used, you MUST fully describe the effects of its use IN DETAIL. Every aspect of the WMD's effects MUST be correct and realistic. Any unrealistic detail in the effects will cause the use of the weapon and ALL of its effects to become void, and there will be no "restocking" of the WMD. Once you use it, you have used it, whether or not the effects are void. At the beginning of the war, you MUST specify what country you are, what WMD you will use (and describing the weapon using the below rules in the weapons' list), and you must show what the entirety of your armed forces is made of (soldier count, tanks, artillery, ships, aircraft, etc.). Specify what your WMD is going to be. Specify ALL measurements of the WMD (yield, range, parts-per-million, altitude, longitude, latitude, etc). You may choose ONE weapon from the following list of WMDs: - Nuclear Weapon: The blast yield must be 209.2 billion kilojoules (50 kilotons of TNT) or LESS. You MUST specify type of detonation (underground/collapse, ground/shock, airburst/dust). You MUST specify the location of the detonation (longitude, latitude, altitude. Also name the country, province/state, and city of detonation). - Chemical: Maximum 15 parts-per-million. Specify chemical type. Nerve agents ARE allowed, but only one can be used. - MOAB/FOAB: Must be used in the unconventional manner. If an MOAB/FOAB is detonated above ground and at an altitude, it has the effects of a tactical nuclear weapon (thus classifying it as a WMD) without the radiation. MUST specify location of the detonation (longitude, latitude, altitude. Also name country, province/state, and city of detonation). Note: If an MOAB/FOAB is used in a conventional manner, then it is NOT classified as a WMD. Biological and radiological weapons are NOT allowed.

11. No allies (NATO, UN, Muslim Brotherhood, or otherwise) under ANY circumstances. Annexation of other countries or agreements that allow formations of larger nations and/or direct military intervention is NOT another than what is specified. You cannot receive donations or economic support from private agencies.

12. Cyberwarfare is allowed. Electronic warfare is limited to radar/radio jamming and interception; NO EMPs. 13. The country chosen must be one of the 206 sovereign states recognized by the United Nations as of 2015. Former states such as the USSR are not accepted, nor are territory-controlling factions not officially recognized by the United Nations, such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, currently the Islamic State), and Gaza Strip, controlled by Hamas, but recognized by the UN as a part of Palestine. You cannot choose my nation.

14. Appropriate conduct MUST be maintained: no insults, cursing, profanity, vulgar language or trolling. Any violation of appropriate conduct WILL BE REPORTED to DDO authorities.

15. If you fail t



I have chosen the United Kingdom


Total Population: 63,742,977

Available Manpower: 29,164,233

Active Frontline Personnel: 146,980

Active Reserve Personnel: 182,000


Tanks: 407

AFVs: 5,948

SPGs: 89

Towed Artillery guns: 138

MLRs: 42


Total Naval Strength: 66

Aircraft Carriers: 1

Frigates: 13

Destroyers: 6

Corvettes: 0

Submarines: 10

Coastal Defense Craft: 28

Mine Warfare: 15


Oil Production: 1,100,000 bbl/day

Oil Consumption: 1,217,000 bbl/day

Proven Oil Reserves: 3,122,000,000 bbl/day


Labor Force: 30,150,000

Merchant Marine strength: 504

Major Ports and Terminals: 14

Roadway Coverage: 394,428

Railway Coverage: 16,454

Serviceable Airports: 460


Defense Budget: $51,500,000,000

External Debt: $9,577,000,000,000

Reserves of Foreign Exchange and Gold: $87,480,000,000

Purchasing Power Parity: $2,387,000,000,000

My WMD is a Nuclear weapon 209.2 billion kilojoules (50 kilotons of TNT)
Debate Round No. 1


My computer is laggy, so I will post the link to my forces. This is usually allowed. My country is India.

indian forces:

My wmd is the 209.2 billion kilojoules nuclear bomb, air bust. Additionally, I`m starting it at July to simplify dates.

July 1st, Nagpur

A terrorist named "londonri" Was confirmed in India. After investigation, it seems like he speaks English. China and the U.S.A say "look at Britain"

July 3rd, new dehli

50 more English speaking terrorists are found, And is reported to have an British accent. Londuri is CONFIRMED to be part of ISIS.

July 6th , new dehli

PM Modi is assassinated by another terrorist. PM Kitteh is now prime minister. Indian intelligence CONFIRM 80% of terrorists in India are from the UK

July 7th, London- new dehli

An document from the UK is intercepted by India. It turns out the UK was funding ISIS.

July 8th, London

UK backs of troops in the war on terror for no reason. The same day, 1,000 old British rifles and $100,000 disappears from London for no reason. India soon finds rifles in the hands of ISIS.

July 9th, Chennai

It`s confirmed the UK was funding ISIS to attack India, wanting access to it`s nuclear technology. India then declare war on the UK, start major producing, and add a extra percent in the gpa to the millitary, getting the percent from police to navy and air force.

July 10th, Moscow

Emergency BRICS meeting agrees on China and Russia not allowing British troops. India invests in North Korea to make $500,000 , which is used to mass produce things. Knowing the UK will take longer to produce and move things, India starts working on quality as well. ALL reserves all called up.

July 10th, new dehli.

PM greatkitteh makes a quote to up morale in indian troops

"May it seem like a day ago, Britain was us. We were the jewel of the crown. We were the slaves of England, Wales, Scotland, and northern Ireland. As A PM, smart as I, Great as I, spoke, we gained independence. We followed Iran, America, hong Kong, and many more. Now, things change, my friend, my troop, my corpse. As the day that will sleep in glory, wakes up, as The indian empire, the jewel of the crown, grows bigger than the UK. Still, They resist, Today, Our planes will be stronger then the monarchy, Our ships, Our men, Our oil. As if so, the Vowel in BRICS, The jewel of the crown, the treadmill of the factory, Will rise up against the welsh dragon, the English cross, the Scottish X, the northern Irish land. Fight, Fight, then Fight more, For every men that dies in honor, Every men shall die in disgrace."

Morale rises.

July 11th, The world

Operation Jewel harbor begins.

July 12th, New York, Afghanistan (Mr. Almighty was last seen there).

India Asks for epic diplomat mr.almighty to come. Soon, the UN makes a law considering any direct help to either side a war crime and a terrorist act. India and Pakistan end the guerrilla war, and starts making meeting with Pakistan, china, North Korea, and Japan. India is able to make 3 treaties

Treaty of conditional surrender

  • Japan and India make a joint stock market projected to give each $1 million.
  • (secret) India can attack British bases in Japan.
  • India sets up a base in Japan, Japan sets a base back in India.
  • Japan trades Indian jewerly for advanced technology and investment in the tourism economy.
  • Joint space exploration projects
  • India redirects oil going to The UK to Japan, In return, Japan redirects computers and crystals going to the UK to India.
  • $50 million education deal, Japan uses it to help the economy, India uses it to educate officers.

Treaty of stanstanstanstanstandia

  • India ends all Pakistan skirmishes and formally apologies to Pakistan.
  • India invests in Pakistan`s space and technology
  • India resettle borders with Pakistan
  • Pakistan allows troops in their soil
  • Pakistan builds a statue of Gandhi, giving India indirect morale boost
  • Pakistan, India, China, and Russia starts a $1 billion dollar oil group, projected to boost India`s oil economy by 15%

Treaty of economy cooperation

  • China orders ALL UK Troops out of hong Kong
  • China Gets Education support from India
  • China gets $20 billion from the UK should India win
  • China redirects corn exports going to the UK to India
  • Germany, Hong Kong, and India start the tri-tourism company, Boosting the tourism economy in all three places
  • India redirects paper exports going to the UK to china
  • India gives china bronze for steel.
  • India lets China invest freely in Indian oil
  • India gives a formal apology for skirmishes
  • (secret) UK bases in hong Kong can be attacked for operation Jewel harbor

Treaty of Beijing is in china, true Korea

  • India invests in north Korea, and gets easy money as there is no competition, No one really invested in North Korea
  • India Gives guidelines on building a stock market in North Korea
  • North Korean people can invest in Indian stock markets
  • North Koreans can watch Indian propaganda alongside North Korean propaganda
  • India gives money to North Korea`s cheese industry, If North Korea gives tips on propaganda. This is accepted.

July 20th

operation Jewel Harbor begins.

Operation jewel harbor

  • fighter jets are replaced with commercial jets(India nationalized all airports) , so the UK can`t know about anything
  • The UK radars find jets going to Belgium, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Falkland islands, Taiwan, South Korea,New zealand, Australia and Saudi Arabia
  • Seeing as jets are in bases as usual, It is classified as a glitch. The UK spends $3 billion pounds to fix it
  • Jets move out of radar range, The UK thinks this is the glitch fixed, And celebrates. 2 days and $5,000 pounds are spent on this, giving India a advantage.
  • All Foreign bases are in sudden attack, and the UK couldn't`t even do much about it
  • Total surprise occurs. 100 men die from stampede alone



1 aircraft carrier, 10,000 men, 2 submarines, 1 helicopter, One five star general, 30 tanks, 40 patrol ships, 1 frigate, and 40 trainer aircraft.


1 jet, 3 men, 100 bullets, 1 rifle, 3 pistols, 2 shotguns, 1 ammo pack, 3 bombs, 1 smart bomb



20 fighters, 2 ships, $500,000 pounds


2 fighters, 1 flamethrower, 2 emergency cans of oil

Basically, Majority of your forces foreign is destroyed.

July 25th, India

Mass production increases the economy by 15%. This money is used to fortify bases. A new plan called (secret) nosition is made.

Nosition in a nutshell

  • The UK has about 200,000,000 less troops than India.
  • India mass recruits and spends more money on training. Officers are more educated because the treaty with Japan.
  • So, India will extend the war to all parts of the world, effectively spreading UK forces thin.
  • India makes deals and places troops in Japan, mainland china, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Poland, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Luxembourg,North Korea, Singapore, Argentina, Canada, and New guinea against UK forces in other places.
  • These places fight Where UK forces are foreign. If the UK ignores the troops and fight only troops in India, the UK will be less relevant, and India will have good chances to seize and rob UK forces, spy and manufacture drones, And attack the UK bases in it`s commonwealth. In other words, The UK ignores this, they will get non-relevant, possibly being kicked out of the big 5, give India free manufacturing, possibly drones, And Money. Also, India would have more troops regardless of how much forces the UK spends. Even at total war, India has more troops with just it`s reserve and Regular.
  • The UK is forced to fight around the globe.
  • India will generally have more numbers

July 30th, New dehli

Nosition planning is done.

August 2nd, maduri, the world

India Sends ships around the world, and on it`s coastline. Indian people start pumping out supplies, and given all the money it gets from previous treaties, is pretty easy to outnumber Britain

August 4th, new dehli


India starts Cyber warfare. India hopes to get hold of major media, radars, And phones.

August 6th, Scotland

India decides to take a little side trip and hack the royal bank of Scotland, getting $3 million pounds in the process. Her Majesty`s Scottish bank account is closed.

August 7th, Rio de janerio

The BRICS agree that India can move it`s cyber attack personnel to their countries, a cyberattack coming from 5 different locations is hard to counter, as the power source India had would be stronger. (This isn`t help, the same way placing troops aren`t help. I`m just placing special troops)

August 8th, Moscow, Beijing, Rio de janerio, New Delhi, Pretoria

India starts hacking British drones. India also places troops in Afghanistan and Iran. Seeing as Mr.Almighty has ties with Afghanistan, India makes a $3 billion dollar oil deal, In return, India gives Afghanistan higher literacy rates.

August 10th, Moscow

India places troops in Russia, to fight UK harboring Georgia.

August 11th, London

India Redirects Education aid from UK to China and Greece. Student protests erupt, putting morale down.

August 12th, New dehli

India starts mass recruiting, and attempts to get more funds. India Decides to start a $5 million education, space, and science deal with Japan, on Vaccines, Life on Mars, and Disease cure

August 15th, kandla

To boost morale, PM kitteh gives medals of honors in kanla.

August 30th

Funds from investing in North Korea, as well as partnership with Japan, start coming in. India decides to get even more money by Helping China invest in Africa.


You`re forced to place troops around the wolrd,Mr. Almmighty helps me, Partnership with japan begins, Money comes in, Cyber warfare begins, The royal bank of scotland is hacked, And all you`re foreign bases are destroyed in some way



tsume forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2


Mr.almighty And greath Kitteh Decide to have a bathroom party.


tsume forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3


Without valuble leadership, The UK miserably fails the attempt to take over india.

A new treaty is signed

Treaty of party

*The Uk give india all of it`s money, Tech, And whatever they have

*The UK is now Owned by India, and so is the commonwelth

*The UK pay epic diplomat mr.almighty

*The UK give japan new zealand

*The UK pay each country Inida had traties with

*All UK and australian citizens, After getting the funds for the treaty of party, Are executed by human testing.



tsume forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4


December 1st

The second korean war begins


tsume forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
24 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by greatkitteh 1 year ago
Russia, SK is 8th, NK is 33th. How do you exepct me to win without nukes?
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
Sure Nk(you) vs SK(me)
Posted by greatkitteh 1 year ago
RTA, Since my oppoment forfeited, Want an AOW debate?
Posted by greatkitteh 1 year ago
No need to strike me or something. ;~:
Posted by greatkitteh 1 year ago
I know, It`s a joke
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
@greatkitteh Your round three did NOT happen.
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
Since you did use him I will give suggestions for a treaty in round 4.
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
Actually scratch that, my opponent forfeited in the one I had against the UK so ok, Yeah, Mr. Almighty,the epic diplomat.
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
@Greatkitteh I only account for Mr. Almighty's life in my war debates.
Posted by triangle.128k 1 year ago
"After investigation, it seems like he speaks English. China and the U.S.A say "look at Britain"

I would just like to point out that nearly all educated Indians know English, it really shouldn't be much of a shock or point to any clues.
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