Abortion Being Allowed In The US
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Abortion is not suddenly getting popular. From 2000 to 2009, abortion actually dropped 8% and it is continuing to drop today.
Pregnancy is more dangerous than abortion. Reuters health notes that women are actually 14 times more likely to die giving birth than they are to die due to complications in an abortion. It has been concluded that today both abortion and giving birth are relatively safe procedures, but with this evidence, it is obvious that pregnancy is more dangerous, proving my opponent wrong.
Abortion is not "killing." A fetus and a baby are two very different things. Many doctors agree that "Fetuses are uniquely different from born human beings in major ways, which casts doubt on the claim that they can be classified as human beings. The most fundamental difference is that a fetus is totally dependent on a woman's body to survive." My opponent talked about how it doesn't make sense to consider killing a felony, and to keep abortion legal. Through this evidence, we can see why. Abortion is fundamentally different from murder because with abortion, you are eliminating a blob of cells with the potential to become a child. With murder, you are ending an actual life.
Many women do not regret their abortions. "Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion." Of course, there will be women who regret their abortions. I concede to that point, but making something illegal simply because citizens will regret doing it is unreasonable.
Abortion is the best option in many circumstances. Often times, if a child is put up for adoption, it will end up being put in a crappy foster system with parents who will treat it badly. Also, we have to look to not just the well being of this "potential child" but the well being of the mother. Many mothers, as shown by the research in my previous point, have a more positive emotional response after their abortions. Women are 14 times more likely to die during pregnancy, showing that pregnancy is more risky. These points prove that abortion is a valid option.
For these reasons and more, I am pro-choice.
Popularity Argument. My opponent attacks my argument that discusses the abortion rate dropping by saying that abortion is still happening. The mistake in this argument is that my opponent does not actually state why abortions are actually bad. Also, my opponent does not address my argument that talks about how the way to lower the abortion rate is not making abortion illegal. The most effective way to actually lower the abortion rate is too provide teens/adults with contraception and teach them how to use it. That will result in less unplanned pregnancies and less abortions.
Danger Argument. I am not claiming that abortion is a completely safe procedure. Things can go wrong. However, with abortion legal things are less likely to go wrong because abortions will take place in a safe and controlled setting. Also, my opponent completely drops my evidence that shows that women are 14 times more likely to die due to pregnancy in comparison to abortion.
Killing Argument. I would like to extend my evidence witch talks about how a fetus actually is not a baby. This is very important in the debate and my opponent did not address this argument at all. If a fetus is not an actually child, then this shows that abortion is morally permissible. My opponent does note that there are many things that happen when an abortion occurs that are more dangerous than a pregnancy. As a reader, you can't look to this argument because there is no evidence to back up this claim. Also, women choose to have an abortion. When they make that choice, they will be aware of the risks of the procedure.
Regret Argument. My opponent talks about how many women do not want to kill their "would to be" child. This is true. However, if a woman has a pro-life stand point, she can simply make the choice to not get an abortion. Being forced into an abortion is extremely rare. If a women regrets her decision, there are many support groups/counselors for that type of thing.
Is abortion the best option? The honest answer to this question is not always. The point I am trying to prove is that it can be. Most parents who get an abortion really do not want to have to care for their child. I would agree that not all kids get put in a bad home, but many do. I am in no way advocating for abortion in every circumstance. I am advocating for the mother to have the right to choose what to do with the fetus she is harboring insider her body.
Abdominal pain and cramping
Spotting and Bleeding
Yes there maybe advantages to abortions, but who would want all these side affects afterwards?
If this had different regulations, I think that the mother should be charged a warrant because it is killing.
"Most parents who get an abortion really do not want to have to care for their child"
That is most that does not mean all parents hate their child.
Danger Argument. I went on the website my opponent listed and I saw that some pregnancy complications were listed. All of the side affects my opponent listed for abortions are things that may happen when a woman is pregnant. The list of complications is actually very long. I completely agree that abortions have their risks, but they will become riskier if they are made illegal. It is not as if women are completely oblivious to the side effects of the abortion going in. My opponent fails to look to the fact that a woman is 14 times more likely to die labor than in an abortion. If we make abortion illegal because it is dangerous, it essentially becomes more dangerous because backstreet abortions are unsafe.
Killing Argument. Unless my opponent provides evidence that proves that a fetus is a legitimate child, the killing argument cannot be looked to. Fetuses cannot survive outside the womb until they are well developed. Since the fetus is merely a blob of cells with the potential to become a child, eliminating it is not the same as killing. It would be unreasonable to charge the mother with killing.
Is abortion the best option? My opponent noted for this point that not all parents hate their child. Firstly, a women getting an abortion generally doesn't hate their potential child. They just see it as beneficial for them to eliminate the fetus because they are unable to take care of it or because they do not want to endure the process of pregnancy/labor.
Also look to the arguments that were not addressed by my opponent: How abortion isn't increasingly popular, and How not al women regret their abortions.
A fetus is an unborn child. This still would count as killing.
Danger Argument. Given that pregnancy results in 14 times more deaths than abortions, I will use this statistic against my opponent. If 56 million people are lost every year due to abortion, 784 million people die every year from pregnancy. This argument is not really relevant though, considering that women know the risks of an abortion going in to the abortion.
Killing Argument. I generally don't attack sources, but Yahoo Answers really is not a reliable source. Like I said in the first round, many doctors agree that "Fetuses are uniquely different from born human beings in major ways which casts doubt on the claim that they can be classified as human beings. The most fundamental difference is that a fetus is totally dependant on a woman's body to survive. A fetus simply cannot be considered a human being because it cannot survive outside the womb. Women should have the right to choose what to do with a fetus inside their body.
Attacking my opponent's final arguments:
"My opponent has described many facts stating the negativity of abortions."
I never legitimately gave evidence that stated the risks of abortions. My opponent did that. I would completely agree with the fact that abortion is a risky procedure, but pregnancy is 14 times riskier. When women get past the period where the morning after pill is a viable solution, they are faced two choices: termination of the pregnancy or pregnancy. If a women does not want to give birth to a child and feels it would be best for the to terminate the pregnancy, it is illogical for them to choose to have a child.
"Yes, there may be more deaths with actually having a baby than not, but abortion still isn't right. It's taking away a fetus that could have been a human being."
Here my opponent conceded that pregnancy is more dangerous. This makes the danger argument completely invalid on my opponents side because women (as I said earlier) only have two options, and abortion is less dangerous. My opponent also concedes that fetus is not a human being. The key word they use here is could have been. This means that abortion cannot be considered unethical because it is not a human being when it is eliminated.
My own final arguments:
For these reasons, I urge a pro vote.
Thank you to samathafalk for a great debate!
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Vote Placed by Comrade_Silly_Otter 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Going Pro for Better Conduct. Pro threw a lot at Cons Arguments as well
Vote Placed by NiamC 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con showed some form of a rebuttal, Pro did not. Nevertheless, this was equalised by Pro having a more structured and detailed argument and had addressed a range of topics. A very good debate
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