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butterflytears
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BangBang-Coconut
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Abortion:Murder or A Choice?

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BangBang-Coconut
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/11/2011 Category: Health
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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butterflytears

Pro

Life begins at birth. The whole life begins when the ova and sperm join is flawed,because many of those embryos do not go on to become babies.They leave the woman's body. Though,I'm not for late-term abortions;I believe in first trimester abortions. People will abort anyway even if we outlaw abortion-they will use a clothes hanger or a back alley doctor,which is less safe and more damaging to the mother. By keeping abortion legal,we can be insured that abortion is practiced by doctors that really know how to do an abortion and make safe as possible for the mother. This is the mother's body we are talking about,the pregnancy happens to her.The baby is completely and totally dependent on the mother for everything,so it is part of your body. Sometimes it's better for mom and baby to be apart...like when the mother is going to be damaged and the baby is too.
Legal abortions will also mean less children suck in the government's checkbook(if it's foster care or on welfare). It also insures that all the children are wanted,therefore they will recieve better parenting and will always be felt as they are loved by their mother or/and father.
BangBang-Coconut

Con

I thank my opponent for making such a debate!

there are many different types of people at many different stages of development; but all of them have something in common, at the very core of their being their DNA identifies them as a human being.

I therefore affirm that abortion is murder.

First we must realize the at the moment a male's sperm joins a female's egg, a completely new strand of DNA is coded, resulting in an entirely new human being [1] and despite them only being in the first stages of development, they are a human being nonetheless

Second, because the DNA of the unborn child is unique to them, and them alone; they are not a part of the Mother's body. Therefore unborn child is no more justified then it would be for the mother kill an 2 month old infant because it isn't a full developed human being.
If the mother has sex, and a child is created the mother is responsible to carry the child to term and have the child; doing otherwise violates the Child's unalienable rights set forth in the constitution [2]
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,"
Notice the constitution says that all men are "Created equal" Not that all men are born equal; thus at the moment of conception, a child has to right to life. When the child's right to life is taken away, the cannot practice liberty, or the pursuit of happiness.

Third my opponent's argument that if abortion is mad illegal that abortion would still take place is a weak one; just because some-one would do something is not grounds to legalize it. And it wouldn't make abortion any less murder

Fourth, even if to the smallest degree a creature is considered alive; taking way that life is murder. So even after all I've said you don't accept that a fetus is a human being, the fact that it is alive cannot be denied; thus abortion is murder.

Fifth, the arguments that the mother has the right to do whatever she wishes with her body is a correlation causation fallacy. One, We know that illicit substance are illegal, so a mother doesn't have the right to do drugs; In the same way, the mother doesn't have absolute control over her body. Two, it isn't just her body when she is pregnant; as I've already touched on, the fetus has a completely unique DNA thus is not the mother's body.

In conclusion, I have show that abortion is indeed murder.
Please, Vote con!
=Sources=
[1] http://www.utilitarian.net...
[2] http://www.utilitarian.net...
Debate Round No. 1
butterflytears

Pro

butterflytears forfeited this round.
BangBang-Coconut

Con

Extend, Vote Pro!
Debate Round No. 2
butterflytears

Pro

butterflytears forfeited this round.
BangBang-Coconut

Con

Well, my opponent has forfeited the entire debate.
You all know what to do!
Debate Round No. 3
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Vote Placed by Dimmitri.C 6 years ago
Dimmitri.C
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Reasons for voting decision: Bangang remained attentive to Butterflytears' affirmations. Pro never successfully established his/ her case. Con has earned my vote.
Vote Placed by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro opens with a string of assertions and then aborts. Domination by BangBang, but at least butterfyeffect had a decent resolution 1 pt