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Abortion after heart beat

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Started: 4/30/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Marine0341

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Greetings Internet,

Before I address the issue of abortion you first must address and define life.
Life:the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body.
Being dead, lack of a heart beat. Six to eight weeks the child inside its mother has a heart beat. To extinguish the heart beat intentionally as in abortion should fall under the same category as murder both morally and judicially. A popular question the other side likes to discuss is "What if the mother is raped" Or "Incest". Once that child has a heartbeat it should be aloud the same rights as an other US citizen. Is it not the child's fault the mother was raped? I am not by any means taking away from the horrible nature of a woman being raped. But by committing another violent act to cover up another will not take the rape away and will not close the mental wounds inflicted on the woman.
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In order for this debate to be productive, we must agree on a definition of life. I'll accept your definition, with one change: "the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from an inanimate object". A car, a desk, or a dead body are all inanimate objects. This encompasses your definition, but widens it enough to be realistic about what life is. According to this definition, both a sperm cell and an egg cell are 'alive'. That is, it has capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and ability to reproduce, which distinguishes it from an inanimate object (and yes, even a dead body). All human cells carry life, but no one gets lynched for exfoliating.


Preemptively countering your next argument, I'll add this: You say that being alive requires a heartbeat, but would you consider a tree to be living? It meets the 7 required characteristics of life (1), but lacks a heartbeat, but nobody would argue that it is inanimate.


In addition, you must realize that, regardless of the presence of a heartbeat, a fetus () would not survive outside of the womb at 6 - 8 weeks. A fetus is not considered viable (able to survive outside the womb with a natural or induced birth) until 23 weeks of gestation at the very least. Any abortion after 20 weeks is considered 'late term', typically only occur because the health of the pregnant parent is at risk, and only account for less than 1.2% of all terminations (2)


There are two main causes of death during pregnancy and delivery. Ectopic pregnancies (3) can cause both fetus and pregnant parent to bleed to death if not terminated. There is also preeclampsia (4), which can cause death of both parent and fetus by seizure, stroke, or organ failure after a family has been waiting the entirety of a pregnancy for a much-wanted child. There are other high-risk pregnancies (5) that can be ended in abortion for the benefit of parent and fetus.


All of this without mentioning the fact that rape is a horrific and violent act that causes incredible amounts of emotional and physical stress on a person, and the survivor of that sort of trauma deserves to handle the fall out however they see fit. The emotional toll of a wanted and expected pregnancy is hard enough, but to know that it is caused by the most painful and tragic experience a human being can experience is enough to cause permanent damage. (6)


I argue that, regardless of the presence of a heartbeat, abortions should be available on demand for pregnant people under any circumstances, including (but not limited to) those stated above.



(1) http://infohost.nmt.edu...
(2) http://amplifyyourvoice.org...
(3) http://en.wikipedia.org...
(4) http://en.wikipedia.org...
(5) http://www.webmd.com...
(6) http://www.secasa.com.au...
Debate Round No. 1
Marine0341

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Debate Round No. 2
Marine0341

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I have to assume, due to his two forefits, that my opponent is not interested in debating this topic. Thank you for reading.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Marine0341 4 years ago
Marine0341
Bacteria, yes good counter for justifying the killing of a human being. Debate is open to anyone sir. Enter if you dare.
Posted by MrCarroll 4 years ago
MrCarroll
I find the requirement of a heartbeat silly since you have bacteria literally alive on your skin. I see this requirement nowhere in my biology books. What advantage does the heartbeat give you on this topic? Or would you rather keep that to yourself at the moment?
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