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Abortion is Evil and Against The Holy Bible

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Started: 6/22/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Uzumaki

Pro

First of all God said in the ten commandments you shall not murder; killing a baby, or even the baby not fully developed is sinful. Furthermore, just because the baby isn't out of the womb doesn't justify elimination. Also, at our brain is not developed until mid thirties, so following the reasoning of pro abortionists we can destroy the brain because is not smart and doesn't serve a good cause...
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yasa70

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I am not completely pro abortions and I don't think that they are the ideal. people must be careful that unless they are ready, willing and capable of bringing a child into this world they should make sure not to get into the state of pregnancy to begin with. now if a pregnancy happens by accident then that's another story completely and it may be worth it to sacrifice the life of the fetus so the child should not suffer if the parents are not ready, willing and capable of bringing a child into this world and raising the child in this world.

If a doctor gives a suggestion to get an abortion then it is necessary to take that notion more seriously. Being that if you choose to grow through with the pregnancy despite a warning from a doctor it can cause harm to both the child and the mother and in effect also the father. And it is very important to remember that the mothers life and health should be regarded more carefully and cautiously than that of the child being that you cannot argue and it is quite clear that the mother is definitely more alive than the fetus. And as valuable every individual life is, this mother can go on to have more children and continue to support her husband and the children she may already have.
I did not fully understand what you said about the brain not being developed so if you don't mind please explaining that more clearly.

And just maybe to bring out the possible good that can come out of an abortion: (this is a theoretical story)
A young girl meets a nice boy in college and they immediately fall in love. Everything is going so well and the couldn't be happier. being that they are young and at times foolish she gets pregnant, and they are torn on the one hand they would be so happy to bring this child into the world and raise it together but on the other hand they don't have enough money to support a child being that they are both still in school and are still uncertain as to their future.

option #1:
They decide to go through with the pregnancy and they have the child. the mother is forced to quit school before graduating in order to take care of the child. and for a year things are going well the father has 2 years left until he can finish medical school, and then they get a letter in the mail warning of a pending eviction from their apartment if they don't pay the rent. after much deliberating the father decides to quit school and look for work. Being that he doesn't have a degree in anything he ends up with a minimum wage job at a car wash. A year later the child is about two years old and the mother and father are struggling tremendously financially and are not getting along in general. Things escalate until they get into a nearly physical fight one night, the next day the father never comes home from work and is never heard from again. the mother gets a part time job as a waitress in some restaurant while the kid is going to a sub par local day care. Eventually the mother can't handle the pressure and begins drinking and occasionally taking drugs. This becomes more and more frequent and the mother gets fired from her job and evicted from her apartment shortly thereafter. she if forced to give the child up to an orphanage and herself gets checked into a rehab center. she never fully recovers but soon has a somewhat steady job as a secretary and lives alone. she meets with the child once a month. the child himself keeps bouncing from one foster home to the next never having normal parents and never having friends because he keeps switching schools and doesn't get a proper education and becomes a gas station attendant with no normal life.

option #2:
The girl gets an abortion and at first they feel a little guilty and are unhappy. but a half year lather the girl graduates and gets a job as an accountant making some money while the boy finishes medical school. Two years later he graduates and they get married. He gets a job in a local clinic and showing promise to becoming a successful doctor. the girl now a woman gets pregnant and they are so excited, a few months later the woman quits her accounting job to have the baby and continues to be a housemother to take care of the child. A year and a half later they have another child. They take a small brake and the husband by this time has already gotten himself a very good job in a hospital. A few years later they have another child. Ten years later they go on a family vacation and while they are sitting in the sun and the children are playing ball and they're all so happy they think back to that abortion.
Now was that worth it!
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Posted by yasa70 2 years ago
yasa70
I am sorry but will have to still see but it's possible that i may not have the time to end this debate so if I don't give a statement in the next or any later round I apologize
Posted by yasa70 2 years ago
yasa70
only-human you sound completely inhuman. for starters you're writing in a different language, and I'm not talking about grammar etc. because if that was your only issue i wouldn't trip out but you're spelling is below 1st grade. And I'm not trying to make fun of you but you should work on it.
And about your statement on abortions, i agree with you partially in the area of sacrifice for the greater good as you can see from my argument in the actual debate but about population control who are you to decide that this life is okay to take so in the future there will be enough resources. That is a job for God, and he's doing a damn good job at it. with his own means of population control.
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Posted by Only-Human 2 years ago
Only-Human
Here my view on aboration: If the parent aborts the baby, then she is not ready to have as baby. Would you rathe that've it that the child grows up with a terrible mother or in a foster home for most of his life. Another thing is that it keeps the population of humans down. We only have so many things to go around, about a million aborations accure in the US, right now w have a pop. of about half a billion already. With more people being born into the world more resources are being taken up and humans will start killing and "murdering" each other for food, water, and shelter soon enough.
Posted by henry.whitaker 2 years ago
henry.whitaker
The thing with this debate is that it is not very debatable. The question says it says it's wrong in the holy bible. Yes different interpretations of the bible may agree, but others maybe not. It all depends on when you consider a baby "alive" (that meaning being able to think, feel etc. - which is certainly at some point before birth). Yet nowhere in the bible, or in science, is this question indefinitely answered (many believe, as do I, that it begins around 24 weeks, when the baby can live independently of the mother), so the op's question hugely depends, person to person.

Another anti-abortion argument from the holy bible, is about the sanctity of life and that only god has the power to give and take life. Very well, if you believe in the bible and it's teachings this makes sense, but still goes back to when does the fetes become living. The sanctity of life argument also opens a whole new can of worms, if we do not have the right to take life, then why do we have the right to stop the end of life - that being by the use of life support machines. It's really a double standard, I highly doubt many anti-abortionists are also anti-life saving medicines and technologies.

So to conclude, I don't agree that abortion is evil, in many cases, for the physical and mental safety of the mother necessary (i.e mental due to rape, and physical due to possible life risk during child birth). As for against the holy bible - very subjective due to differing opinions of when life begins in the womb.
Posted by Theunkown 2 years ago
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read these Uzumaki, I cannot be bothered to debate this topic with another christian AGAIN.
Posted by Domr 2 years ago
Domr
Are you saying all abortion is wrong?
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