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aly2799
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mdc32
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Abortion is murder

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mdc32
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/1/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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aly2799

Pro

You said so yourself that murder is defined as "killing someone" a baby is someone. So technically you are killing someone. A baby has a brain, arms, legs, and a heart just like we do. Which makes them a person. Now if you're a woman who is saying "these are my rights." WRONG! Although the baby is connected to her body it is not her brain and it is not her body ( the baby.) There goes all the babies potential and hope.
mdc32

Con

I will be taking the stance that abortion is not murder. This debate will be relative to the US only, as Pro did not take the opportunity to restrict the limits of the arguments and situations. The debate to which Pro refers to in his argument can be found here. I will reiterate my arguments for convenience later this round, however.

Rebuttals

“You said so yourself that murder is defined as ‘killing someone’”

Ah, the ever-present fallacy of quoting out of context. Yes, I did say this, yet you took this quote and used it to misrepresent my side of the argument. Murder is defined as “killing someone,” just unlawfully. You fail to mention this, leading me to question your integrity relating to debates. Now, back to the actual quote. Abortion is not unlawful, but I will go into this in more detail later.

“Although the baby is connected to her body it is not her brain and it is not her body”

And? This doesn’t make it murder or even cause it to be illegal. I will admit that the baby is technically not part of her body, yet this isn’t a point backing up abortion’s status as murder. Abortion may be immoral, but that is for another debate.

Argument(s)

Abortion is legally not murder.

Murder, as I said roughly before, is defined as “the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought.” [1] Abortion is lawful, as shown in the Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade [2]. The decision written by Harry Blackmun, who had previously served as the counsel for Mayo Clinic from 1950 to 1959. His resolution states that the laws in Texas, which prohibited abortion unless the mother’s life was in danger, were unconstitutional [3]. Roe could not afford to travel to another state for a safe, legal, and approved abortion; she was also single and unmarried, so she had no husband to raise the baby with. Roe argued that these laws infringed on her right to privacy as written in multiple amendments to the Constitution. The Supreme Court eventually ruled in favor of Roe, 7 to 2, showing that abortion is legally justified.

P1) Abortion is legal.

P2) Killing is murder if and only if it is illegal.

C1) Abortion is not murder.

I have no need to state any more arguments, as I have easily fulfilled my BoP. I look forward to Pro’s response to my likely irrefutable argument.

[1] http://www.merriam-webster.com...

[2] http://www.pbs.org...

[3] http://law2.umkc.edu...


Debate Round No. 1
aly2799

Pro

aly2799 forfeited this round.
mdc32

Con

Extend. Hopefully this isn't another FF by Pro.
Debate Round No. 2
aly2799

Pro

aly2799 forfeited this round.
mdc32

Con

This is disappointing. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 3
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