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Abortion laws should be substantially reformed.

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Started: 10/22/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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First round is acceptance. Simply put "challenge accepted" or something of the like in your argument box for round one. For this debate, I will be Pro (P), and you will be Con (C).The following rounds will be as follows:

Round 2 (R2): Opening statements and Cross-Examination
  • The Pro (P), will give opening statements
  • The Con (C), will give an opening statement. This will be immediately followed (in the same round, 2) by a Cross-Examination (read, analyze, and ask questions about the Pro's opening statement), which the Pro will answer in round 3.
Round 3 (R3): Cross-Ex and Cross-Ex Answers
  • P will answer any questions raised by the C in R2. They will then conduct their own Cross-Ex of C's opening statemnts in R2.
  • C will answer any questions raised by the P
Round 4 (R4): New Arguments
  • P will give more evidence regarding his stance on the issue.
  • C will give more evidence regarding his stance on the issue.
Round 5 (R5): Closing Statements
  • P will make closing statements.
  • C will make closing statements.


Challenge Accepted
Debate Round No. 1


Resolved: Abortion laws should be substantially reformed.

  1. Abortion: a medical procedure used to end a pregnancy and cause the death of the fetus [1]
  2. Substantially: considerable in quantity; significantly great [2]
  3. Fetus: a human being or animal in the later stages of development before it is born [3]
I stand resolved that abortion laws should be substantially reformed. The countries of the world should change their laws so that abortion is only legal when the mother's life is threatened.

Currently, a large portion of the world deems abortion as legal. There are those countries that only allow abortion if the woman was raped, is in health or psychological danger, or incapable of caring for the child. And then there are other countries that allow for abortion even if:
the woman consented to sex and was not forced, tricked, or drugged;
the woman is in great mental and physical health;
the woman is completely capable of caring for the unborn child.

These countries essentially allow a woman, who voluntarily engaged herself in sexual activity, to escape any so-called "unwanted" results of being sexually active. These countries (China, North Korea, Singapore, Netherlands, Vietnam, Canada, and parts of the United States) allow a woman to abort her fetus, even after 20 weeks. [4] (Two of these countries have a 24 week limit.) How have we allowed ourselves to decide the death of an innocent fetus, all so the mother can rid herself of the responsibilities of bearing a child?

There is the weak argument that a 20 week old fetus is not alive. Shall we review what 'life' is, according to biology? Life is an organism that:
  • Can reproduce (meaning the organism has the potential to reproduce at some point in its life)
  • Move
  • Grow
  • Respond to a stimulus
  • Carry on metabolic activities
  • Is made of cells
With this in mind, let's consider whether or not a human fetus (at 20 weeks) fits these criteria. Can a human fetus (20 weeks)
  • reproduce? Yes!
  • grow? Yes!
  • respond to a stimulus? Yes!
  • carry on metabolic activities? Yes!
  • made of cells? Yes!
Well, we see here that clearly, a fetus is alive. At least from biological standards it is. This definition is hotly debated, with most Pro-Choice advocates claiming viability instead of life. It's also interesting to note that in many U.S. states, it is considered a double murder if one were to kill a pregnant woman at any stage in her pregnancy. Obviously the state and federal governments do not agree on the definition of life.

We have made the decision to willingly eliminate human life, simply because we fear the responsibilities that come along with it. Is this at all fair?


Resolved: Abortion should not be legal in any circumstances.

We have heard that it is said that abortion should be allowed when the mother is endangered. This is in itself unconstitutional. Take a look at the 14th amendment:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 1

Notice the amendment says " deprive a person of life."?

The current standards for abortion are that abortion is legal under any circumstances in the United States.2

As we can see, this gruesome process is legal under any circumstance, such as rape or willing pregnancy. Moving on, I noticed a flaw in Pro and his argument. He says that we willingfully take a fetus and kill it without question but then he says that if a mother is terminally ill, abortion is key.

Going back to the argument I made above. Even if the mother is ill, this is unconstitutional. The mother agreed to the pregnancy.

If I take a coin, it will be rusted in two years. Will I be willing to throw this away just because it is rusted? See, the analogy I am trying to make is that....

You have life in you. Will an illness cause life to go away? As statistics show, more people are in support of pregnancies being aborted due to an illness on part of the mother. 3.

Pro has obviously not done any research on this topic, as his sentence affirms that these lawa should be reformed when they are already in favor of the abortion procedure in certain circumstances.

Pro, can you clarify what you meant when you stated that countries should change their laws? That is a strawman.

Hope to have a nice debate.

Debate Round No. 2


Due to confusions between the Con and I, we ask that this entire debate not be judged. We have both mutually agreed to end this debate.

Thank you.


That is the agreement.
Debate Round No. 3


This round and debate will not be judged.
Debate Round No. 4


Final Round.
Remember friends and judges, this debate is asked to not be judged.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by TheUser 2 years ago
Is Pro against abortion?
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