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midgetjoe
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Hickmangirl2
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Abortion should be Illegal.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/14/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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midgetjoe

Pro

very simple, but i will divide my points up:

1. It has nothing to do with woman's rights. If it IS a life, you have no right to kill it, if it ISN'T a life, than nobody's argueing. therefore the question is, whether or not it's a life NOT whether women have control over their body.

2. There is no way to scientifically tell when a fetus becomes a life, and therefore nobody (except God) is qualified to state when it may be killed. In order to say it's NOT a life you have to back up WHY somehow, how do you do this? What makes it a "life"? Why is it a life AFTER it's born, but not a second before?

pretty simple...good luck, and please keep it concise (short), i don't want to deal with 40 pages of a reply.
Hickmangirl2

Con

Yes, human life is dear to everyone and hopefully cherished, but abortion is not killing an infant. The so called "baby" is called a fetus, which is just another part of a woman's body. A fetus is going to become a human being, it is not a human yet. And by law a fetus is not a baby until it is out of the mother's womb and has it's first breath(with help or not). Abortion, is just a women getting rid of a part of her body, like and appendix, but what people don't realize is that people who get abortions are setting the future to what is going to be, and people against abortions are living in the "what could have been" times. Also, abortion is not always about the unwanted child, but sometimes about the unwanted pregnancy. Some women were raped and got pregnant because of it and just wanted to get rid of the thought. Is that so wrong? Plus, some of the women who get abortions are mainly teens, drinkers, druggies, and abusive women. Would not it be better if the future child was not born if it's mother was to young to take care of it? Or if it is going to end up abused, raped, murdered, or traveling between foster homes. Wouldn't it be better if that kid wasn't born to have a terrible future? Although, women usually know what they are getting into before they get pregnant, it is their choice, and their choice alone it they wants to, or are going to have the baby.
Debate Round No. 1
midgetjoe

Pro

"Yes, human life is dear to everyone and hopefully cherished, "

good, i'm glad that is agreed on..

"but abortion is not killing an infant. The so called "baby" is called a fetus, which is just another part of a woman's body. A fetus is going to become a human being, it is not a human yet."

ok this is the crucial question....at what POINT does it become a baby? please explain not only when, but WHY...

"And by law a fetus is not a baby until it is out of the mother's womb and has it's first breath(with help or not)."

Current Law is irelevant in this debate as the question is what the law SHOULD be, not what it is...

"Abortion, is just a women getting rid of a part of her body, like and appendix, but what people don't realize is that people who get abortions are setting the future to what is going to be, and people against abortions are living in the "what could have been" times. Also, abortion is not always about the unwanted child, but sometimes about the unwanted pregnancy. Some women were raped and got pregnant because of it and just wanted to get rid of the thought. Is that so wrong? Plus, some of the women who get abortions are mainly teens, drinkers, druggies, and abusive women. Would not it be better if the future child was not born if it's mother was to young to take care of it? Or if it is going to end up abused, raped, murdered, or traveling between foster homes. Wouldn't it be better if that kid wasn't born to have a terrible future? Although, women usually know what they are getting into before they get pregnant, it is their choice, and their choice alone it they wants to, or are going to have the baby."

you are sidestepping the issue.... as i pointed out in my first arguement.... the point i made is, IS IT A BABY? you have yet to bring up any evidence that is is. If it is NOT a baby than all this is true.... but if it IS a baby than it doesn't matter if it was rape or incest or what-have-you it would be murder.

so my question again is: AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME A BABY? AND WHY??

on a side note...wierdest coincidence in the world....we live about 2 miles apart...i live in Denair
Hickmangirl2

Con

I am currently changing my opinion thanks to http://www.teenbreaks.com...
which showed what happened to the baby.
It was a good debate thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
midgetjoe

Pro

midgetjoe forfeited this round.
Hickmangirl2

Con

Thanks for debating with me. To those who think I am a poser, think again! I just say some horrifying pictures, and the website I posted wasn't even mine. Thank you for your time.
Debate Round No. 3
midgetjoe

Pro

midgetjoe forfeited this round.
Hickmangirl2

Con

Hickmangirl2 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
midgetjoe

Pro

midgetjoe forfeited this round.
Hickmangirl2

Con

Hickmangirl2 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Rob1Billion 9 years ago
Rob1Billion
I agree, it seems like a ploy. how many pro-choicers are rooting for mike huckabee anyway...
Posted by Tatarize 9 years ago
Tatarize
Yes, this is her second "debate". Exactly like this.
http://www.debate.org...

So much for not being a liar.
Posted by kvaughan 9 years ago
kvaughan
hickmangirl2 is a poser. Probably did this starting pro-abortion and wanted to get people over to her website
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Reasons for voting decision: I think this was a fake debate - I vote for Con cause I believe Abortion should be legal - men don't allow women to regulate their reproductive parts why should they be allowed to do it to mine ? Cause GOD says so ? Well who wrote the bible ? MEN ! "saying" its from god, a book that like most religious books/texts r written by men (cause women weren't ALLOWED to learn reading and writing at the time, some places still aren't) and control, demonize women and place men in positions of authority of them.
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