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eyeleapy
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Abortion should be illegal!!

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/14/2008 Category: Health
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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YummyYummCupcake

Pro

Dude..Abortion should be illegal..why are you in favor of it..R-Tard. Its not like the baby is gonna be raised to be a rapist.
eyeleapy

Con

OK, I accept you challenge.

Here why I say it should be.

Abortion should be leagle because it's a choice, and in this great country of America, we do have the choice to do as we feel, as long as it doesn't come into interruptance with anyone elses freedom. You believe in pro-life, possibly because you think its considered murder. Well if a baby is still in it's 1st tri-mester, then it would be no larger than a plumb (mmmm plumbs). Being this so small it hasn't devoloped its pain nerves to feel it being put to death. If a women cannot take care of a child, why force that baby into being here on this planet, miserable? A women has a choice to say whether she may have her underdeveloped child or not. Wouldn't you want the choice?
Debate Round No. 1
YummyYummCupcake

Pro

There's many woman who would love to have child and maybe she cant. Maybe she cant cause she had ovarian cancer and her dreams had fallen apart. Now she's counting on a person to have a chilD for her or maybe yet.. SHE CAN GO TO FOSTER CARE..oops caps. And well people who dont choose to have a child is okay...they can have it and when there done having that c-section or labor, she can put it in a foster care..simple as that..why go through a much more painful stage of abortion when they have to live with the guilt with the rest of their life's. When they really can feel good about making a family happy when she can donate her son or daughter to a family that can't have kids. Killing an unborn child is cruel and should be stopped. Woman should think twice before having sex without a condom..And if they choose not to have sex with a condom on..The should suffer the consequences. Dont take it out on the baby and kill it. Thats just wrong.
eyeleapy

Con

I think maybe Adrians right on this one... Thanx

Ok you made a great statement... Aborting would be killing the child before it began to live. But here's a question. If the woman were to be raped by her father at lets say the age of 16. Then because she couldn't abort, she's out in the situation in which she must have this child and not ready for it in the long term. She hasn't had a job and yet she's being forced to care for this new child with no finances. Yes she may abort it, but there's always that one chance that her grandparent, (her dad) can file to adopt the child. If there's no proof, he can and will gain custody of the child. Now you put your child in a much worse environment than you might have thought. And these cases happen all the time. It wouldn't be fair. Also, if the child is unborn, it's not murder nor is it cruel. for the simple fact that it isn't even alive yet. You cannot kill something that doesn't have a life.
Debate Round No. 2
YummyYummCupcake

Pro

I understand..May girls get raped by the fathers I bet. But if they have the chance to go through labor and so on and so forth. The hospital, in a heart beat contacts social services, and social services gives her options. They can easily re-areange something for the victim. She can put the baby in foster care if there's no one that can take care of the baby with a STABLE environment. Of course social services is not going to hand the baby to one of the girls uncles thats a crack dealer or crack head, pipes laying everywhere on the floor, powder substance on the coffee table..That's a big no no. Like I said before. I don't think anyone would want to live with the guilt of killing something thats of part of them. In my eyes. I would love to make a family happy with a child that they always wanted to care. Babies is what keeps this world growing day by day. Rapist are another rebate..Should they be put to death row? Or just give them time? Special Victims Unit has a job..To keep them pervs off the streets and not let them rape again. Rape victims should have only two choices..Keep the baby for herself or make a family happy. I belive if they live with the guilt of murder that it will eventually lead to depression and maybe suicide. So not only she killed her son or daughter..she killed herself..and she's gonna be poop outta luck when those portals open for her and her son or daughter would be waiting for her on the other side with questions...Okay that was dumb..but i have a point. Abortion should be illegal. period.
eyeleapy

Con

Whoops, i F*cked up G. Ignorith the commint. :)

Your endeing statement in round 2 can't be used. Sorry gurl but ya just can't use that statement in a debate, because then i can turn and say that i think it can be legal, that's why it should be period.

But as I've said before, if the special victims unit can't prove that the grandfather was the rapist then it will most likly to go to the grand-dads custody, even though they ask for a perternity test, he can easily say it's against his religion and without having to prove it, they cannot give him the test. And it shouldn't be a guilty consience if the child weren't alive to begin with. Even though i stated that, doesn't mean thy're not going to feel guilty. and if they considered suicide, it shows them to be weak minded. you also stated that the baby would see it's mother in heaven? Well the baby hasn't even been alive and yet seeks out a vengence against his mother, i find this highly un-likely. This would go into the debate, if God exists, or if fetuses have souls.

Most rape victims never go to the police simply because they have fear of the raper. I know it sounds wack, but more than 70% of all rape victims never go to the authorities.
Debate Round No. 3
YummyYummCupcake

Pro

You put it on the comment box r-tard. Why does everbody think rape victims when the hear the word abortion. i just dont understand that a woman would go a long way to harm herself with the drinking of clorox or bleach to punching herself and maing herslef fall down the stairs to kill a baby and hurting herself also. and when she thinks about it, i wouldn't be in this situation if her partner didn't wear a condom with those 15 minutes of satisfaction.. if she does indeed abort her baby she's gonna have a bad record for the rest of her life and when indeed she decides to have a baby, social services are gonna be contacting her twice a month until the baby is 18. Herassment? No. Because of that one mistake that one guilt she decided to do. So you are in favor of self-harm? or people to harm themselfs for a long time just to give up something that's a part of them..a part of their soul?
eyeleapy

Con

It'll never go on a bad record because it's not against the law in some states. Also, she doesn't have to harm her self in any way. They do have abortion clinics which makes it safe and clean for an abortion and it can remain anomynous.

Also the thing about having sex and wearing a condom, sometimes, but rarely the males shlong is too gigantic, the condom tears, or pops (I'll show you when i meet you on what i mean by this. lol). Then they are left with pregnancy. And just because they have sex, doesn't mean you can say, "Well they can do it then they should be responsible enough to have a baby." That'll then make the wearing of condoms null-n-void. Because then that'll mean sex should only be done if you want a baby. Sex is very healthy and satisfying. It also releases endorfins which can make you feel good and can even fight off any illnesses. Ill show you how this works, instead of talking any furhter on it.

*BONG!!!!!!!
Debate Round No. 4
YummyYummCupcake

Pro

Gaah. Why would she go through all that..when she can that it to a foster care?? Wouldn't you feel good if you made a family happy? You tell me. Maybe that baby that she aborted had the idea of the cure for cancer. Maybe he coud've been the president that had it all. Ever thought about that? Kids are the future. We need more engineers. We need more doctors, M.D'S, Dentists, Scientist, Archiologist...etc You just never know who a kid is gonna be, Cure for AID'S? Cure for H.I.V? The biggest question..Cure for cancer? In this century kids are getting very smart by the age of 3. The can understand and talk a full conversation like an adult. When there 6..Who knows what they thinking..We need them no more than ever. Dont you think?
eyeleapy

Con

True, Kids are the future, but the fact that the earth is over populated can be the down fall of our species. More kids means more mouths to feed, more pollution more crime,. etc etc. Maybe the child will be something great, or maube he'll be the next Dahmer or rapist, ya never know, but dealing with the worst of out comes, comes from scared future parents. If they simply can't handle a kid because of finances, or dealing with the care for a child, or the thought of the rapped victims father with gain custody, just is too much. This is why i say women should have a choice on how they want to deal with thier body. If you wanted to piece your belly or tongue, wouldn't you say that it's your choice. Or what if God placed a baby in some young womens body and has no idea why it's there, and can't afford a child at the point of her life where she's near success, shouldn't she be able to afford it?

LOL... LMAO
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by eyeleapy 8 years ago
eyeleapy
Thanks SchinkBR, your not half bad as i thought you were. Word up hommie.
Posted by SchinkBR 8 years ago
SchinkBR
lol, it's a bit ironic that I didn't check my own spelling isn't it, but at least I didn't base my vote on typos

Clearly if someone got raped they wouldn't have made the choice and thus, in my opinion they should be allowed to have an abortion if they want to. Personally i'd still give it up for adoption, but I concede the point that in that case, it should be up to the mother. Same thing for incest and mother endangerment.
Posted by YummyYummCupcake 8 years ago
YummyYummCupcake
Lmao.
It's soo weird that people love to argue and debate on this website..But yet the get offended by one word.. 'bitch'
That's really pathetic and retarded..yes i said retarded..soo what. sue me.
Posted by eyeleapy 8 years ago
eyeleapy
Hey, if you can't handle curse words, then you shouldn't be in america, nor should you be watching R rated movies. And it turns out that maybe we grew up in a ghetto type hood, or at least i did, i don't know about her. So maybe i'm useto "cursing", you don't like it, move to Iraq or some "Civilized" country, because whether you like it or not, in this Great Land we call the USA, we do "curse", be Proud, because most are proud.

PS to be immature, im going to call you a poop face... "Poop Face"
Posted by YummyYummCupcake 8 years ago
YummyYummCupcake
I dont have to repeat myself son.
sccrplyr40..Your as pathetic as the other people try to prove me wrong..The only thing you can come up with is my bad spelling..it's called typos you moron. for all i know you just made ur account to just make comments. retard
Posted by sccrplyr40 8 years ago
sccrplyr40
I'm not voting for either of you because your spelling was horrible, your arguments were not supported very well, and this debate should have gone somewhere. It turns out that you both just like cursing and using bad language. Let's see a more civilized debate next time.
Posted by YummyYummCupcake 8 years ago
YummyYummCupcake
As SchinkBR said in the comment..

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enough said
Posted by SirJDCroix 8 years ago
SirJDCroix
The characteristics of life.

Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, sweating to reduce temperature.
Organization: Being composed of one or more cells, which are the basic units of life.
Metabolism: Consumption of energy by converting nonliving material into cellular components (anabolism) and decomposing organic matter (catabolism). Living things require energy to maintain internal organization (homeostasis) and to produce the other phenomena associated with life.
Growth: Maintenance of a higher rate of synthesis than catalysis. A growing organism increases in size in all of its parts, rather than simply accumulating matter. The particular species begins to multiply and expand as the evolution continues to flourish.
Adaptation: The ability to change over a period of time in response to the environment. This ability is fundamental to the process of evolution and is determined by the organism's heredity as well as the composition of metabolized substances, and external factors present.
Response to stimuli: A response can take many forms, from the contraction of a unicellular organism when touched to complex reactions involving all the senses of higher animals. A response is often expressed by motion, for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun or an animal chasing its prey.
Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms. Reproduction can be the division of one cell to form two new cells. Usually the term is applied to the production of a new individual (either asexually, from a single parent organism, or sexually, from at least two differing parent organisms), although strictly speaking it also describes the production of new cells in the process of growth.
Posted by SirJDCroix 8 years ago
SirJDCroix
"...Also, if the child is unborn, it's not murder nor is it cruel. for the simple fact that it isn't even alive yet. You cannot kill something that doesn't have a life..."

WTF.

DEFINE LIFE mr. scientist.

If not, here, I'll do it for you.
Posted by Kleptin 8 years ago
Kleptin
I don't see the correlation cupcake x.x
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