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BlakeBrown
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letters4liz
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Abortion

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letters4liz
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/13/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BlakeBrown

Con

Abortion should not be allowed in any cases only in exception when the birth is very detrimental to the woman's health. A baby can not give consent, so it can not give consent to being aborted so I say with that it is unjustifiable.
letters4liz

Pro

To clarify, you're saying abortion should be illegal except in those very specific cases, yet I notice how you failed to mention rape. So if a women is raped and then impregnated, she would have to live with the baby? Every day she was sick and in pain from the pregnancy, it would remind her of what had happened. And when the baby was born she would see her attacker in that baby. That baby would most likely be given up for adoption. Putting another kid through the system, a system where those kids have to live in orphanages and many never feel truly loved, the ones who are stuck growing up in these places.

Just because the baby is alive, definitely doesn't mean they're going to be happy. If the government thinks they have the right to tell women what choices they can and can't make, then they should also have to make sure these children are taken care of, because as of now, they are not.

On top of everything, I believe making abortion illegal can be extremely dangerous for mother and child. Because a woman will still get an abortion, either at a safe, sterile clinic or at a "Back alley Butcher". "Back-alley" abortions cause 68,000 maternal deaths each year in the 33 countries where abortion is not legal or available, according to the World Health Organization. A woman's right to choose abortion is a "fundamental right" recognized by the US Supreme Court. The landmark abortion case Roe v. Wade was decided on Jan. 22, 1973, and remains the law still.
Also, the idea that life begins at conception is not a proven biological fact. Life begins at birth. And these babies have not yet been born.
Also, According to Stuart W. G. Derbyshire, PhD, Senior Lecturer at the University of Birmingham, "Not only has the biological development not yet occurred to support pain experience, but the environment after birth, so necessary to the development of pain experience, is also yet to occur." This is saying that the fetus cannot feel any pain whatsoever.

Many anti-abortion positions are based on religious belief. Thanks to the Treaty of Tripoli, we have a vital law-separation of church and state. Religious beliefs should not play a role in this matter. Especially when contraceptives become involved. Should condoms become illegal because the sperm is basically being thrown away? Especially since contraceptives aren't always reliable. Should having sex one time punish a woman with the baby? Why should they have to be stuck with this accident child because the man took just as much a role in creating that child, and in many cases play almost no role in the child's life.
This goes to show the environment these kids grow up in. Abortion reduces crime. Some estimates claim "legalized abortion accounted for as much as 50% of the drop in murder, property crime, and violent crime between 1973 and 2001. Teenage girls, unmarried women, and poor women are more likely to have unintended pregnancies, and since unwanted babies are often raised in poverty, their chances of leading criminal lives in adulthood are increased." John J. Donohue, PhD, and Steven D. Levitt, JD, PhD, "The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime," The Quarterly Journal of Economics.
Debate Round No. 1
BlakeBrown

Con

BlakeBrown forfeited this round.
letters4liz

Pro

Since Con has forfeited this round, I'm not quite sure exactly what to argue against. So instead I'll just add more to my previous argument.
But first, one question. Why do we celebrate our birthdays, instead of celebrating the day we were conceived? Why do we say we are so many years old, but don't start counting our years of being alive until after we exit the womb? There is a reason we celebrate the days we were born, and came into this world.
Also, not only is abortion one of the safest medical procedures in the country, but it is also one of the most common. The belief that there's a certain "type" of woman who chooses abortion is as outdated as it is ignorant.
In fact, by age 45, over one-third of American women will have had an abortion. These women represent all racial, ethnic, socioeconomic, political, and religious backgrounds. They are women we know, and women we love. They are our sisters, our daughters, and our mothers.
Debate Round No. 2
BlakeBrown

Con

BlakeBrown forfeited this round.
letters4liz

Pro

My closing is simply this:
This debate isn't about whether we think abortion is good or bad, it should be about whether a person can handle a child emotionally and physically. And if they can't, why bring a small, helpless being into a world where it's own mother and father don't want it? That's immoral, if anything else is.
My point being that we should make abortion legal, for all the women we love in our lives to be able to keep making their own choices about their body.
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Reasons for voting decision: Well, I have to comment. My reason for voting is I find Abortion as a major topic in modern day politics.