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lagessemsc2015
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Abortion

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Started: 3/17/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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sarzas15

Pro

Abortion is a fundamental right that every woman should have the option to do so. Each individual woman has the right to control their own body and no one should take that right away. Even though religion is important to many people's lives, there is a reason church and state are separated. Many woman want to have abortions because they do not feel like they could raise the child safely or in a good manner.
lagessemsc2015

Con

Firstly, the insinuation that this is a matter of religious principle is invalid. This is a matter of the moral right of every human being to life that is granted at the moment of conception. On the matter of economic stability, the option for adoption is always a safe and legal alternative to the cruel murder of a defenseless child. Furthermore, it is the responsibility of the mother care for a child that is fully dependent upon her.
Debate Round No. 1
sarzas15

Pro

On the topic of adoption, it is not as simple as having the baby and giving it to a family. First, the child will eventually want to know who his/her biological parent is. It is not as simple as giving the baby up and never having to deal with the baby again. The adoption process is not easy either. Many people have a hard time finding the right family for their child. Overall, adoption is not an option to abortion because it is still up to the woman to give the child up for adoption or not.
lagessemsc2015

Con

Studies have indicated that there is, in fact, a rich and prosperous "market" for adoption. It is a traditional belief that adoption is a long and difficult road for children, but that inference is a poorly justified opinion based on false pretenses. In 2001, a staggering 1.5 million kids were adopted from the United States both internally and internationally. Also with the rights of same sex marriage rapidly expanding, it is estimated that the 66k adopted annually will grow exponentially (PBS).
Debate Round No. 2
sarzas15

Pro

Even though those facts may be true, the decision for a mother to place a child up for adoption is not an easy process. Adoption is not an alternative to abortion. Adoption solves the problem of who will take care of the child but abortion a decision of ending an unwanted pregnancy. For example woman who get raped and do not want the constant reminder of being sexually assaulted. Overall, adoption may seem an easy fix on the outside but there are many other factors to it.
lagessemsc2015

Con

Is it not the right of every human being to be, at the very least, given a chance to live?
Suppose you were asked simply, "Would you rather live or die?" The answer should be quite clear. As the only person who the life of the child directly depends on, it is the mother's responsibility to grant her offspring that chance rather than certain death.
On the point of rape, which rarely results in pregnancy, there are many factors which could act as reminders. I question how ending life would fix it.
Debate Round No. 3
sarzas15

Pro

Rape can still end in pregnancy no matter what the circumstance and the biggest reminder of it would be the child. With the question of "Would you rather live or die?" is a false analogy. Comparing having an abortion to asking someone if they want to die have two different characteristics. An abortion is something in the moment, not a future event. When you ask a person who has lived many years of their life to either live or die, it is for future event that the person can think about.
lagessemsc2015

Con

That, exactly, is the point. The child does not get a future. There is no future nor a chance at one for an aborted baby.
As a completely parallel (in no way equal to) example to the baby being a reminder of rape, I present a theoretical yet plausible scenario. Take the horrific events that happened at the Boston Marathon attack a while ago. People who lost limbs suffered a great loss at the hands of the terrorist simply do not have the right to murder him because he is a reminder of their pain.
Debate Round No. 4
sarzas15

Pro

Again with the situation of the Boston Marathon bomber, nothing to do with abortion. Saying that you want to kill someone because they murdered many people is not related to killing a fetus because women do not have a "responsibility" to have children. Even if the woman decided to have sex she does not assume this responsibility. This does not relate because the bomber chose to kill those people, knowing fully what the consequences could be; therefore he had responsibility for his actions.
lagessemsc2015

Con

As I mentioned earlier, that was merely an analogy to say that one cannot just kill a reminder of bad things. This philosophy of, "in order to rid my burdens, I must eliminate any symbols of pain entirely," is morally wrong and, casually speaking, quite selfish.
I contend that abortion is not a viable option to avoid parenthood. While there are many scenarios in which keeping the child may not be ideal, alternatives such as adoption are present.
Is a little paperwork not worth a child's life?
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by WardMSC2015 1 year ago
WardMSC2015
Abortion in itself is killing a human being...there is no question to that. In no way are you destroying a persons life by giving birth to them. A child born in this world will have many opportunities to rise up, and live a happy and healthy live, and abortion is the taking away of that. No matter what the circumstances are, If you put a two year old in the same situation, and called it "murder", then every person in these arguments would agree that that murder was wrong. It is the same thing.
Posted by Kimbut123 1 year ago
Kimbut123
Saying that killing an innocent creature can be justified is wrong. As being raped and being pregnant as a result is sure horrible, there is always the morning after pill where you are stopping the possibility of life, but not directly killing a baby. Besides rape, there is also cases where the mother could be in danger(such as an illness), which can be the only morally right situation. If a woman is irresponsible enough to not use protection or not think about consequences, they should have to pay for their mistakes, not the child.
Posted by Jamjars 1 year ago
Jamjars
Saying that abortion is killing a human being is rather tricky because it depends on your perception of "human being". Is an agglomerate of cells splitting themselves into other cells to create what in 9 months could be called a human being already a human being, or is it just an agglomerate of cells? is the "life" of this agglomerate more worthy than the "life" of an amoeba?
Also saying that the woman isn't forced to raise the baby, hence she can leave him for adoption and it's not the baby's fault she didn't use protection is rather sexist, as if the woman should take all the responsibility for getting pregnant, and as if a pregnancy was something rather ordinary and easy to deal with, instead of a sometimes harsh experience that can leave a series of emotional scars, specially if the pregnancy was undesired, and the child was given away to adoption.
Posted by Rezend 1 year ago
Rezend
I am against abortion, because you kill a human being. That is all there is. The woman isn't forced to raise the baby. She can leave him for adoption, and it is not the baby's fault she didn't use protection.
Posted by americanmade23 1 year ago
americanmade23
The idea of abortion is extemely controversial for a reason. that reason is that either you "kill" a living being by aborting or you "destroy" a living being's life by not aborting.
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