The Instigator
Kelisitaan
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
RonPaulConservative
Con (against)
Winning
3 Points

Abortion

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RonPaulConservative
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/23/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Kelisitaan

Pro

A women should have the right to choose.
RonPaulConservative

Con

To chose what? You make it sound like an abortion is just something that has no consequences but to the mother. This is just not the case, an abortion, after a certain period of time after conception, effectually ends the life of a baby which has perpetrated no crime against the mother, and has never harmed her- being planned out, and executed on an unsuspecting innocent individual this is none other than cold blooded murder, which the mother should not be enabled to commit.
Debate Round No. 1
Kelisitaan

Pro

I never made it sound like that abortion has no consequences, nor was that ever implied. I simply said that a woman should have the right to choose what to do with her body. Almost EVERY action has both positives and negatives " abortion is no different.

Whether or not the baby has committed a crime against his or her mother is irrelevant and a non-sequitur. The argument is that a woman should have the right to do whatever she wants to her own body. For example, she has the right to cut off her hand if she wants, even if that hand has done her no harm.
RonPaulConservative

Con

The baby's body is different from he mothers body, it is not simply an appendage but another human being with rights. A woman may have the ability to chjop off her hand, but she has no right to cvhop off my opponents hand, and this applies here no less.
Debate Round No. 2
Kelisitaan

Pro

Again, you are incorrectly claiming that a fetus is the same thing as a baby. It is not. They are two different things. A fetus has the POTENTIAL to become a baby, yes. Is a baby girl the same thing as a 40-year-old girl because the baby girl has the potential to become a 40-year-old woman? No

A woman has no right to kill a baby; however, she has every right to kill her fetus, since her fetus is NOT a baby and is a part of her body.
RonPaulConservative

Con

I never said that because something has the potential to become something that it is that thing, it cannot have the potential to become a baby because you cannot become what you already are.
Debate Round No. 3
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Vote Placed by Hylian_3000 1 year ago
Hylian_3000
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Reasons for voting decision: S&G: Distracting spelling errors from Con. (Round 2: Spelled chop incorrectly twice, distracting). Con wins arguments. Pro makes some compelling arguments about how a woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body, but Con counters that by stating that the baby is another human being, not part of the mother's body. That was Pro's only argument until Round 3, which he then makes an argument about how a fetus isn't a baby. Pro also made an argument about the fetus not having a potential to become a baby, but isn't a baby itself. This was putting words into the mouth of Con, and it was called out by Con. The argument was contested by Con, who said it doesn't have the potential to become a baby because it already is a baby. The round hinged on whether or not a fetus is a baby and if it's part of the mother's body. Since no clear definition was given, and there was no clear definition at the end, I couldn't vote on that. I instead voted on compelling arguments, Con won that.