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Loveshismom
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wrichcirw
Con (against)
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Accept if you Dare #4: Resolved: Mortal Kombat Fatalities are too brutal.

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wrichcirw
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/5/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Loveshismom

Pro

This is part 4 of my "accept if you dare" series of debates on unorthodox topics. Let's define "brutal:"

1. Savage; cruel; inhuman
5. Irrational (1)

Now to define "too:"

2. To an excessive extent or degree; beyond what is desirable or fitting (1)

Con may argue first if they wish.
wrichcirw

Con

I thank my opponent for creating an interesting resolution (although I really don't see anything unorthodox about this topic).

I will first highlight that my opponent has burden of proof in affirming his case; regardless I will now proffer my own case.


Opening


My opening arguments will be short. I fully agree that Mortal Kombat Fatalities are very brutal...the question is are they TOO brutal? Here PRO's argument falls apart, as he has defined "too brutal" to mean "brutal beyond what is desirable or fitting."

Is there a demand for brutal video games? Absolutely. While I may consider such brutality to be excessive to my own tastes, I fully acknowledge that there is a tremendous desire in the marketplace for these kind of games. God of War for example involves a protagonist (about as anti-hero a protagonist as you can get) who, when battling Hercules, pummels him to the point where he is unrecognizable in what has become one of the most brutal scenes ever created in any visual media (https://www.youtube.com...).

God of War is one of the most highly acclaimed titles to have ever been released in the history of video games, earning an endless stream of "Game of the Year" accolades (http://www.webcitation.org...), near-perfect ratings from what constitutes video game critics currently, and is one of Sony's most valuable franchises. There is evident demand for this level of violence in these games, meaning that this brutality is imminently desirable, that the brutality is not "beyond what is desirable", and that it is thus not "too brutal".

Mortal Kombat by comparison is tame. It does not involve 10 minute fights that end with 30 second death sequences in close quarters (most rounds are one or two minutes long, and fatalities, while brutal, are very brief). It does not show nudity, pornography, or prostitution (all rampant in God of War). It is not nearly as brutal as God of War, and since God of War is noted as being highly desirable and is not "too brutal", consequentially, Mortal Kombat is also not "too brutal".

For an example of what is "too brutal", I point to this game: Thrill Kill (http://www.askmen.com...), which was so brutal that the distributors had problems actually releasing the game to the general public. That game is orders of magnitude more brutal, violent, sadistic, and disturbing than either God of War or Mortal Kombat.


Conclusion


God of War and Mortal Kombat are all far too graphic for my own tastes, but there is evident demand in the marketplace for such graphic depictions of violence. Demand equals desire, and since they are highly desirable games, the content of such games is not "beyond what is desirable".

There are titles that are far more brutal that have trouble gaining an audience due to the disturbing nature of that brutality. Neither God of War nor Mortal Kombat fit this bill and are thus not "too brutal".
Debate Round No. 1
Loveshismom

Pro

Loveshismom forfeited this round.
wrichcirw

Con

My opponent has forfeited without posting an argument and has thus not met his burden. Extend.
Debate Round No. 2
Loveshismom

Pro

Loveshismom forfeited this round.
wrichcirw

Con

Extend - I foresee a good week of this drab process.
Debate Round No. 3
Loveshismom

Pro

Loveshismom forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Loveshismom

Pro

I give up
wrichcirw

Con

My opponent has conceded. Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Loveshismom 2 years ago
Loveshismom
Cuz
Posted by wrichcirw 2 years ago
wrichcirw
Why did you post a comment on the debate yet still forfeited the round?
Posted by Loveshismom 2 years ago
Loveshismom
My source in round 1 was dictionary.com
Posted by johnlubba 2 years ago
johnlubba
I like this debate and will try to follow it, Apart from that I think there is a good argument for Shao Khan being the hardest boss in a computer game ever.
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