Debate Rounds (5)
Round 1: State position, and acceptance. List what you will defend your position with.
Round 2-3: Stay with your points and logically defend it without rebuttal of the opponent's points.
Round 4: Refute your opponents points from rounds 2-3.
Round 5: Conclusion.
People of color and women , for hundreds of years, were unable to be successful it as racism and sexism was so ingrained into the system. Policies that promote inclusion, such as affirmative action, are designed to equalize the conditions of an otherwise unfair race and give everyone a fair chance to compete. (It can be argued that these polices address a symptom rather then the illness) I will argue that affirmative action is still necessary. I will argue that attempt to say that MLK Jr, would be disappointed with theses polices is a misinterpretation of his famous i have a dream speech and finally that this is not reverse discrimination but rather a tool for equalization.
American Indian 480 486 461 1,427
Asian 521 597 527 1,645
Black 431 429 418 1,278
Mexican-American 449 464 442 1,355
Puerto Rican 456 453 445 1,354
Other Latino 450 461 443 1,354
White 527 534 515 1,576
As my opponent can see, Whites and Asians both had the highest SAT scores, this could be due to the fact that they know that only being their race that they can't get into college. The lowest was blacks, and despite the fact that they had been intergated for decades they still received a lower score than Hispanics and Native Americans over all. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution reads: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;" and "without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The key thing to remember is equal protection under the law, which Affirmative Action just doesn't protect. There are poor whites who were stuck in poverty before the Civil Rights Movement and they're families are still poor even after the Civil Rights Movement. Martin Luther King Jr wanted to end poverty regardless of race"The Poor People"s Campaign was a multiracial effort aimed at alleviating poverty regardless of race." http://en.m.wikipedia.org...'s_Campaign the Poor's people campaign was started by Martin Luther King to hopefully make America a socialist country: the result failed as he had been assassinated before he could've accomplished it. They key thing was regardless of race which was truly color-blind and helping all people.
Also, it is guarnteed that a company must hire a certain number of people that belong to certain ethnic groups, regardless what economic class they grew-up with because at the end of the day, it was the faults of whites way back then, not the faults of whites in modern era. Should anyone be held responsible for what their ancestors did? This is not the way to go forward into the next generation and will ultimately lead to even more racial hatred than the 1960s as it exists in the world today. This will only create racial bigotry in the minds of the intellectual, but not well of whites. If someone is truly a smart and intellectual minority they would be hired regardless of race and times, similar to the age of the Harlem Rennisance which happened during segregation. If a company's goal is to be diverse than we won't they already failed in the actual goal of a business which is to make products which makes people consume them: not create a interracial institution so we can discuss our cultural prorities over that of the company's interest. You can be diverse without the need of forcing someone to accommodate the colors of another as the Supreme Court decided" Companies are people".
In a recent Supreme Court case known as: Schuette v. Coalition the Supreme Court has decided that Michigan banning Affirmative Action was totally constitutional. http://en.m.wikipedia.org...
With that at hand, the citizens that reside or desire to apply to go to a Michigan University or higher instruction no longer will be based on race. In response to many people claiming discrimination, here is a racial and gender demographic of a university in Michigan known commonly as MSU or Michigan State University.
"Total Undergraduate Students37,988
American Indian / Alaskan Native83<1%
African American / Black2,5387%
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander22<1%
Two or More Races9042%
Race/Ethnicity Not Reported"source: http://www.collegeportraits.org...
All in all, the demographics of the University still look diverse and probably very similar to the demographics of the State of Michigan. The gender-gap isn't that great of a difference either. Another great case in which we can see that Affirmative Action based on race and gender would not really be important is in the presidental election of both 2008 and 2012 where despite the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama had been part of the,"disadvantaged races" he still won both the elections and withing politics there is no such idea as Affirmative Action. Therefore, what can be implied is that we as a people can actually remove our racial barriers and elect a minority into power, while the huge majority are of the Caucasian race. (Pure-Caucasian race).
If an Affrican American or a Hispanic works hard then even segregation would not be able to bring them down, which is why the ones known as Cesar Chavez and Martin Luther King Jr are remembered despite the fact that racism could've brought both individuals down at times. As we go on with the times, we must realize that just because our forefathers made a mistake of segregation, we shouldn't be held accountable for what they had done towards each other, let us grow as a truly color-blind society as Martin Luther King Jr wanted: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" if Matin Luther King Jr was alive today, what would he think if there was still Affirmative Action despite the fact that a black man may be in the White House. He also wanted that individuals would not be judged on the color of their skin, but how they show themselves. His dream can't be fully lived as long as America has this policy of preferring certain citizens simply based on the color of their skin, something the individual has no control over, but must be suffered or honored for the rest of their lives simply because of that one fact.
http://blog.sfgate.com...) please tell me is this not discrimination? Now Kwasi Enin got accepted to all 8 Ivy League schools despite being a black man. (http://www.usatoday.com...)
If my opponent did not realize, Affirmative Action mostly applies to higher education instead of jobs. Also please tell me, are there no rich black people? Does my opponent assume every black is poor? Are all whites rich? Are there no poor whites?
Finally, my opponent implied that Martin Luther King Jr was ok with reverse discrimination. Color blindness means "3 : not influenced by differences of race"(http://i.word.com...). The world Martin Luther King Jr wanted can not be lived to the fullest unless we get rid of this outdated policy. Also one big question to my opponent,(Answer only in conclusion round), are we ever truly color blind as long as we are creating reverse discrimination? If so, why should "present-day" whites be judged on what their parents did? If your parents were rapists does that mean you should pay the price 50 years later?
Innocent black kids get shot for being "Suspicious", 1 in every 15 African American men and 1 in every 36 Hispanic men are incarcerated in comparison to 1 in every 106 white men, and Individuals of color have a disproportionate number of encounters with law enforcement, indicating that racial profiling continues to be a problem. (http://www.americanprogress.org...)
"Also if Affirmative Action truly protected female individuals, then what happened to Suzy Lee Weiss. She had 4.5 gpa and 2120 SAT scores"
Her letter left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Susie Lee Weiss is on of the most luck people in the world. Suzy "lives in a $700,000 home and attended a national blue ribbon school in Pennsylvania." ( http://mic.com... ) Systemic problems do not disappear simply by portraying yourself as a diverse individual. Many students of color and LGBT students lack financial and emotional safety nets during their college years and struggle to stay afloat despite being incredible academically competent. Rising above racial stereotypes daily or coming out to your loved ones and facing rejection takes courage and integrity and universities value that in students. every year competitive universities receive enough applicants to fill the incoming year many times over.
"Also please tell me, are there no rich black people? Does my opponent assume every black is poor? Are all whites rich? Are there no poor whites?"
35% of black people live below the poverty line in The United States. (http://kff.org...) as apposed to 13% of white people.
" If so, why should "present-day" whites be judged on what their parents did? If your parents were rapists does that mean you should pay the price 50 years later?"
It isn't about punishing white people, it is about giving people of color a chance after having hundreds of years of unable to succeed by being disenfranchised (and arguable still are ).
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Vote Placed by bladerunner060 2 years ago
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