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Affirmative action

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Started: 6/28/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Dictator777

Con

I am strongly against affirmative action for 3 reasons- firstly affirmative action leads to reverse discrimination. Secondly, it lowers the standard of accountability needed to push students or employees to perform better. Thirdly, it chooses people by merit or race not taking into account their merit, achievements, competency etc. Pro- affirmative action side will argue that it serves as a compensation to the minorities and people who were oppressed and strives to bring in equality. To this I say that by giving people quotas and advantages to succeed it defeats the very purpose of its creation i.e to bring equality. Therefore, it should stop as soon as possible.
desertdawg

Pro

President Kennedy was the first to use the term "affirmative action" in an Executive Order that directed government contractors to take "affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin." This says nothing of special favor but just seeks equality.

J.F.K. was the first to use the term but the idea of affirmative action was foreshadowed as early as the Reconstruction Era, which followed the U.S. Civil War. When that conflict ended, the former slave population throughout the South owned virtually nothing and had only a limited set of skills with which they could make a living. To help these newly emancipated citizens sustain a minimal economic base, the victorious General William T. Sherman proposed to divide up the land and goods from the sizable plantations of southeastern Georgia that were under his command and grant to each family of color "40 acres and a mule." The proposal ran into powerful political opposition, however, and it was never widely adopted.

Fast forward to the Civic Rights Movement of the 1960"s and the condition of race relations and the need for a drastic improvement. Nothing was implemented during the Reconstruction Era and look what happened, racism and inequality flourished. Maybe the pendulum has swung a little bit in the other direction at this point but we need to stay the course until this issue is completely resolved and eradicated then let"s kick it again to make sure it stays down.

Sources:
Claude Oubre, Forty Acres and a Mule: The Freedmen"s Bureau and Black Land Ownership (Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1978); Eric Foner, A Short History of Reconstruction, 1863-1877 - See more at: http://www.blackpast.org...
Debate Round No. 1
Dictator777

Con

Dictator777 forfeited this round.
desertdawg

Pro

I would like to open this round with a quote from the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that"s pretty important."

Back in the 60"s when he made this statement a black person could be jailed for being accused of a crime without due process and even executed if the crime they were being accused of was bad enough. So laws had to be made to halt these atrocities.

Sporadic efforts to remedy the results of hundreds of years of slavery, segregation and denial of opportunity have been made since the end of the Civil War. We need a constant all out effort to remedy the lingering effects of racial discrimination.

In response to your claim that Affirmative Action causes reverse discrimination I say we need to reverse it and bring it all the way back to zero.

On the charge that it chooses people by race not taking into account their merit, achievements, competency.

In 1947, Brooklyn Dodgers president Branch Rickey, decided to take some affirmative action on his own and approached Jack Roosevelt Robinson about joining the Brooklyn Dodgers. The Major Leagues had not had an African-American player since 1889, when baseball became segregated. When Jackie first donned a Brooklyn Dodger uniform, he pioneered the integration of professional athletics in America. By breaking the color barrier in baseball, the nation's preeminent sport, he courageously challenged the deeply rooted custom of racial segregation in both the North and the South.

Jackie Robinson went on to be rookie of the year, he also was selected most valuable player one year and won a batting title and is in the baseball hall of fame. He was given the opportunity because he was black but but also because he was well qualified for the position.

So if someone is guilty of denying people opportunities because of race, creed, color, or national origin, there needs to be laws in place to make them do that.

Affirmative action simply means taking positive steps to end discrimination, to prevent its recurrence, and to create new opportunities that were previously denied minorities and women.

Sources:
http://www.civilrights.org...

http://www.jackierobinson.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Dictator777

Con

Dictator777 forfeited this round.
desertdawg

Pro

The original intent of Affirmative Action is good, to ensure equal opportunity without regard to race. In order to do that we might have to give some one, who in the past was denied opportunity because of their race, special consideration. With out this law I believe there are many who would not participate in the practice of equal opportunity for all. While the law, as it stands, might have it's shortcomings we don't throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. We can not let our nation degenerate to where it was when this law was forced into existence. Of course a person has to be qualified for what ever opportunity they want to be considered for but if they are qualified should not be denied because of race and that is all Affirmative Action first set out to achieve.

Anyone who has ever witnessed the ugly observance of racial discrimination or felt it's harmful sting knows the importance of remaining diligent to make sure it is forever banished from our society.

I also find it disturbing that there has to be laws to make people do what is morally right but that is the world we live in. So if it has to be that way, so be it.

Thank you for this challenge. I wish you could have participated.
Debate Round No. 3
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