The Instigator
defleppard1691
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MechMage
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36 Points

African Americans deserve the right to vote

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/16/2008 Category: News
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,972 times Debate No: 1837
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defleppard1691

Pro

I firmly believe that all men are created equal. because all people are equal then they have the right to vote. Any one who honestly doesn't think this accept my challenge.
MechMage

Con

Those of African-American decent do not deserve the right to vote. The White settlers risked everything they had coming to America. Sure, African-Americans have been here just as long, but they came in chains. White settlers came to build a new life, and built one. African-Americans weren't imported until the White settlers had things built up, at least in the general area. Sure, the contributions of African-Americans are undeniable, but the US was founded by white hands and white minds standing on black backs. It wasn't the people's country, it was the white men's country. The Northerners may have condemned slavery, but they didn't dare put it in writing because the Southerners would never agree to it. The White Americans built America from the ground up, risking their own lives, and the African-Americans don't deserve the right to vote in it.
(I'd like to say that I don't really oppose African-Americans voting, but this looked like a fun debate.)
Debate Round No. 1
defleppard1691

Pro

Good point, according to Mendelian genetics the white gene is recessive to the African American gene thus African American gene came first thus they came first and therefore deserve to vote over whites.
MechMage

Con

I'm not sure what you mean by came first. The MayFlower landed in MA, and jump started the Puritan movement who's descendants wrote the Declaration of Independence, and Constitution. Human life started in Africa, and the first people were black. Is that what your getting at? They were the ancestors of all of the humans in Eurasia and Africa. Just because the humans in Europe grew pale skin, doesn't mean that their ancestors were younger, they were the same people. Europeans just changed more than Africans did. Europeans were the founders of the US, and the African-Americans that just hung around for the ride don't deserve a vote.
Debate Round No. 2
defleppard1691

Pro

defleppard1691 forfeited this round.
MechMage

Con

MechMage forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
No, political correctness in the sense that she actually took the con position. Maybe not with much conviction, but she did.

Also, you can check my debating qualities from the ones I have already done.
Posted by defleppard1691 9 years ago
defleppard1691
who ever this US PATRIOT is u proboly suck at debate.....i am messing around if you really want to debate me on sumthin let me know
Posted by Chuckles 9 years ago
Chuckles
because, of course, US Patriot, every one on this site hates you and they vote against you because your they're liberal.

but i agree that political correctness sucks.
Posted by Miserlou 9 years ago
Miserlou
How are African-Americans voting political correctness?
Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
Deflepperad is just bad in this debate. I see no reason anyone would quote Mendel in a debate about Voting Rights.

Go Mechmage. Kill political correctness.
Posted by DucoNihilum 9 years ago
DucoNihilum
I sense they're trying to see if we're biased....
Posted by ellyphant 9 years ago
ellyphant
With such a simple, clear topic, it's weird that the topic would end this quickly and without controversy. No one alive today was among the first people who settled in the United States and "made a new life"; even if they were, immigrants have less rights in this nation, not more. Immigration aside, those born and/or raised in the United States do not inherit the actual experiences of their ancestors; their culture and their names, perhaps, but not credit for their actions. All people who are citizens of the United States have an EQUAL RIGHT TO VOTE by this rule. If all people must live with the regulations decided by the voting process, all of those people have a right to vote on the topic; elections or otherwise. Feel free to file a secession into a new one-person country if you disagree; at least you'll always be the majority.
Posted by defleppard1691 9 years ago
defleppard1691
yeah, see i could bust out civil rights acts, mlk, the declaration the constitution, but itd be more fun to use things people havnt heard of, thats the point of this debate. PS sorry i didnt respond in time.
Posted by Miserlou 9 years ago
Miserlou
If defleppard doesn't win this I might start this topic again just for closure
Posted by wingnut2280 9 years ago
wingnut2280
I can't believe someone is winning on CON this bad. I mean, I'm not topic voting, but I would think that PRO has lots more ammo on the subject.
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