All math-being-everywhere please regard 0 to be a #.
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Wallstreetatheist
| Started: | 8/7/2012 | Category: | Philosophy |
| Updated: | 9 months ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 335 times | Debate No: | 25058 |
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 Pro In particular, for a mathematician who is for gay marriage and all that jazz my question is: why does said mathematician regard zero as insufficient in-itself to be dubbed a number? First round, restate acceptance. The bronze of a statue or the silver of a cup, or the classes which contain these?  Con I restate acceptance. What is the resolution we are arguing? I assume Pro has full burden of proof, and I will operate under this assumption until further evidence is presented about the resolution and its burden/s of proof. |
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Pro DMX: "I just love when a nigga bring his whole crew it's just a bigga piece of cake for me to chew a hole through." Con We have yet to establish a resolution and my opponent has yet to say anything coherent. He maintains his burden of proof, yet has not said anything of rhetorical weight yet. "All math-being-everywhere please regard 0 to be a #." This is a supplication to an imaginary "math-being" for a request that could be fulfilled through human means, all it requires is a swtiching of two symbols. "In particular, for a mathematician who is for gay marriage and all that jazz my question is: why does said mathematician regard zero as insufficient in-itself to be dubbed a number?" 0 is both a number and the numerical digit used to represent that number in numerals. [1. http://en.wikipedia.org...(number)] "Zero is clearly an element of the set of Real Numbers, it's the "additive identity" -- the number that, when added to any other number x, doesn't change the value of x. (Similarly, 1 is the multiplicative identity -- the number that, when multiplied by any other number x, doesn't change the value of x.) Thus, zero is a number, just as any other element of the set of Real Numbers is a number." [2. http://www.straightdope.com...; Furthermore, mathematics functions completely independentally of sexual orientation. "The bronze of a statue or the silver of a cup, or the classes which contain these?" Nonsensical question. "Please Hold." Pick a resolution please. "DMX: "I just love when a nigga bring his whole crew it's just a bigga piece of cake for me to chew a hole through." What does DMX's Bring Your Whole Crew have to do with this "debate?" Vote Con |
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Pro Con Now my opponent is describing the cell cycle, which is biology, not number theory or mathematics. VOTE CON |
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Pro The opponent, 'Pro's opponent', stated furthermore: "Now my opponent is describing the cell cycle, which is biology, not number theory or mathematics." Regarding these as premises, my conclusion furthermore is the following: 'Mmmm---what the hey? Shew fly." Asking me to restate my 'resolution', is asking of me way too much and is unethical. I have no responsibility to 'use up' the amount of letters distributed throughout my rebuke; that is, to incorporate into my debate the answer to my opponent's fallacious conclusion. He beg's the question in Round 2 and 3. As to begging the question in round 2: He claims what mathematics 'is not' with no premises. Do not be duped. Let us call this premise 'the mathematician'. Since Con knows what math is not, it must follow he knows what it is. I, here and now, formally ask Con: will you accept 'the mathematician' to be a zero? Con Analysis: Pro has yet to establish a resolution; thus, he has yet to fulfill his sole burden of proof in this debate. Since new arguments are not permitted last round, as debating decorum and rules require, I have successfully won this debate. I wish my opponent the best. "Regarding these as premises, my conclusion furthermore is the following: 'Mmmm---what the hey? Shew fly.'" Irrelevant conclusion fallacy. "Asking me to restate my 'resolution', is asking of me way too much and is unethical." The first step in a debate between two individuals or groups is establishing a resolution. The affirmation or negation of the resolution is the goal of debate, and without such a goal, a debate will be incoherent and lack rhetorical purpose. "I have no responsibility to 'use up' the amount of letters distributed throughout my rebuke" Rebuke means: Express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behavior or actions. I believe Pro mistakenly used the word 'rebuke' as a malapropism for 'rebuttal'. If he did not, it is still incoherent, as I have acted with debating decorum and written my rounds with the strictest veracity. "He claims what mathematics 'is not' with no premises." I did not make such a claim, and I ask the judges to view my previous round for such a remark. I claimed that 'mathematics functions completely independentally of sexual orientation' in response to Pro's asinine round 1 question formulation. "will you accept 'the mathematician' to be a zero?" This is a nonsense formulation and is irrelevant, as you have yet to establish a resolution or achieve your full burden of proof. Voting Issues I urge a complete Con vote on spelling and grammar for Pro's sub-par spelling and grammar; conduct, because Pro is "rebuk[ing]" me and he started an incompetent debate; arguments, because Pro has yet to establish a resolution or fulfill his BOP; sources, because I had sources. VOTE CON :D |
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Pro Con It's official: Con wins. Voting Issues I urge a complete Con vote on spelling and grammar for Pro's sub-par spelling and grammar; conduct, because Pro is "rebuk[ing]" me, he rudely labelled me a "the math-being-everywhere," superstitiously proclaiming, "My God casts you out!" and he started an incompetent debate; arguments, because Pro has yet to establish a resolution or fulfill his BOP; sources, because I had sources. VOTE CON :D |
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Vote Placed by Ore_Ele 9 months ago
| abstractposters | Wallstreetatheist | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - |  | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | | - | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 7 |
Reasons for voting decision: Con actually presented an argument, while Pro did not refute it.
Vote Placed by AlwaysMoreThanYou 9 months ago
| abstractposters | Wallstreetatheist | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | | - | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | | - | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | | - | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 7 |
Reasons for voting decision: Mildly humorous.
Vote Placed by MouthWash 9 months ago
| abstractposters | Wallstreetatheist | Tied | ||
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| Agreed with before the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Agreed with after the debate: | - | - | | 0 points |
| Who had better conduct: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Had better spelling and grammar: | - | | - | 1 point |
| Made more convincing arguments: | - | | - | 3 points |
| Used the most reliable sources: | - | | - | 2 points |
| Total points awarded: | 0 | 7 |
Reasons for voting decision: "My God casts you out!"
/sarcasm