The Instigator
Cherymenthol
Pro (for)
Losing
3 Points
The Contender
Cody_Franklin
Con (against)
Winning
40 Points

All your base are belong to us.

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Started: 12/16/2009 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Cherymenthol

Pro

Upon accepting this debate CON must agree with the Framework.

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Framework
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Base: Fundamental principle or groundwork, framework of the round.

Us: We debaters, my opponent and I.

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You do not own the base. I took it from Dicitonary.com [1]. But even they do not own the base, this is because they have not copyrighted the words I used. So base belongs to all.

Also the base of the round is not mutually exclusive, it is used by both because its in the compulsory framework, therefore accepted by both parties, and being accepted it becomes the property of both of us.

As we can see all my opponents Base are belong to us.

[1] http://dictionary.reference.com......
Cody_Franklin

Con

Five reasons to negate:

1. Only the base of the round belongs to us; this base =/= all base; ergo, not ALL base are belong to us. Negated.

2. If I owned the base, I could modify it; because I am bound by unmodifiable parameters, I couldn't own the base. Negated.

3. "You do not own the base." I don't own the base; ergo, we don't own the base. Negated.

4. I hereby forfeit any ownership rights that I might have to the base of this round. I can no longer own the base; ergo, neither can "we". Negated.

5. All base cannot belong to us, because somebody set up us the bomb [http://en.wikipedia.org...]. Negated.
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by wjmelements 6 years ago
wjmelements
Arguments: CON
-PRO contradicts himself, as seen in CON's point 3, effectively negating the resolution.
Sources: CON
-I don't count definition sources.
Posted by Nails 6 years ago
Nails
1. PRO specifically defined base as the framework of the round.

2. I don't think that own=modifiable necessarily. It's arguable either way.

3. This is definately most convincing. I must wonder what PRO's motive is in posting this.

4. PRO's first sentence says you can't 'forfeit' the framework.

5. I'm not familiar with Internet memes.

I voted CON in arguments based on #3. #2 is plausibly a win for CON also.
Posted by Cherymenthol 6 years ago
Cherymenthol
I agree with rougeagent21. But
Posted by Cody_Franklin 6 years ago
Cody_Franklin
Where in your argument did you say anything about counterexamples? Also, it's not just that there are counterexamples. Your affirmation only covers ONE base. One. Singular. Not plural. It's not just counterexamples that the negative is looking at. It's pointing out that your affirmation isn't just conditional - it's centered on one example.
Posted by rougeagent21 6 years ago
rougeagent21
"Guys. Really now. The debate is over."
Posted by Cherymenthol 6 years ago
Cherymenthol
Why not? And I proved their will always be counterexamples therefore forcing non-conditional affirmation would be inherently unfair.
Posted by Cody_Franklin 6 years ago
Cody_Franklin
You can't conditionally affirm an inherently universal resolution. The resolution states ALL base, not A base. How would you conditionally affirm that ALL base belongs to us?
Posted by Cherymenthol 6 years ago
Cherymenthol
Hm I see what your saying... but , I have to conditonally affirm can possibly negate ALL Bases therefore conditional affirmation is justified.
Posted by Cody_Franklin 6 years ago
Cody_Franklin
No no no, the resolution clearly states that ALL your base are belong to us; at most, you're proposing that the base of the round belongs to us, but that singular base is obviously not the same as ALL base; therefore, the resolution is negated.
Posted by Cherymenthol 6 years ago
Cherymenthol
I should have done two rounds...

Base belongs to all... therefore you have base, but it is not limited... oh well...
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