The Instigator
Hay
Pro (for)
Losing
4 Points
The Contender
DakotaKrafick
Con (against)
Winning
27 Points

Allah is the real god

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DakotaKrafick
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/9/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
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Hay

Pro

Allah is the one true god and Jesus is his messenger not the son of God.
DakotaKrafick

Con

Good luck.
Debate Round No. 1
Hay

Pro

Thanks for accepting my debate. I wish you good luck.

First of all, if you are Christians I know your holy book is the bible and Christians worship Jesus father. And in Islam We worship Allah.

You see Jesus (PBUH) His mother was Jesus and so on. What made the Christians think he was the son of God. When we think of son that means he is a human. And is there any Any evidence that he is the son of god. Just think about it. People spread rumors and other things that he is the son of god. He never said that. He was only the messenger of God.

Also when we think in technological terms Son means a man/women's child or offspring. So his father would be Mary's husband or his mother because Mary's son was also Jesus (PBUH) so Mary or his father could be God.

Again I wish you good luck in this debate. And if I made a mistake that you're religion is a religion other than Christianity please let me know.
DakotaKrafick

Con

As my profile states, I am an atheist. It seems the basis of your arguments rest on the assumption that I believed the resolution at least partway. But let's take a look at them anyawy...

"And is there any Any evidence that he is the son of god. Just think about it. People spread rumors and other things that he is the son of god. He never said that. He was only the messenger of God."

This argument basically states that because there is no evidence Jesus is (A) the divine son of God, that he must therefore be (B) God's messenger. Such a conclusion can only be accepted if we initially agree that (A) and (B) are the only two available options, when of course, we've done no such thing. Jesus could have been (C) neither.

"Also when we think in technological terms Son means a man/women's child or offspring. So his father would be Mary's husband or his mother because Mary's son was also Jesus (PBUH) so Mary or his father could be God."

Again, I don't agree Jesus was the "son" of God at all. To meet your burden of proof, Pro, you must prove the resolution independent of any beliefs we may or may not already have. You need real evidence, not false dichotomies and assumptions.

Over to you again.
Debate Round No. 2
Hay

Pro

Hay forfeited this round.
DakotaKrafick

Con

Extend all that stuff I just said.
Debate Round No. 3
Hay

Pro

Hay forfeited this round.
DakotaKrafick

Con

Extend once again.
Debate Round No. 4
Hay

Pro

I quit this debate
DakotaKrafick

Con

Then I thank you, Hay, for making this giant waste of time possible.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by DakotaKrafick 4 years ago
DakotaKrafick
GarretKadeDupre, my good man, it's safe to say you should have your voting privileges revoked.
Posted by Morningsun10000 4 years ago
Morningsun10000
There is not ANY historical or archaeological evidence that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century. http://brotherpete.com...
Posted by philochristos 4 years ago
philochristos
I'm not sure whether I think Allah and YHWY are the same God or not. I agree that Jesus is God's messenger. You ought to clarify what you mean by "son of God" because it has at least four different meanings in Christianity.
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Reasons for voting decision: El Forfeito
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeit, then quit
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Reasons for voting decision: GarretKadeDupre I'm afraid you can't conceal your votebomb
Vote Placed by GarretKadeDupre 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Burden of proof was on Pro, and while he didn't meet it according to atheist standards, Con didn't refute his main arguments. But I'm not an atheist, and I don't think atheism isn't the status quo; I'm Catholic, and agree that Allah is the real God. Spelling and Grammar points to Con because Pro didn't use proper punctuation.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeited/quit in the face of strong arguments by Con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro quit, I guess.