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dorky
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revleader5
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Allen iverson should be the known as the best basketball player ever

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/23/2007 Category: Sports
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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dorky

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As you all know that Michael jordan was announced the best basketball player ever to play in the NBA, but I think that should be changed remember when Allen crossed over Michael Jordan, and that was his rookie year imagine what he could do to Jordan now days
revleader5

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This is your first debate. You should've chosen a stronger topic so that you could get a feel for this site. Also making only 2 rounds is very bad.

Allen Iverson's current PPG- 26.6
His career high PPG-31.4

MJ's career PPG- 30.1
Career High PPG- 37.1

Iverson would have to get around 37 a season for the rest of his career to match up to MJ.

You have only said that he is better because he crossed up MJ in his rookie season.

Let me compare this to another sport, may I?

Baseball. You must have heard of Nolan Ryan. The strikeout king. 5000+ strikeouts. Well, Will Clark hit a home run off Ryan in his first major league at bat on the first pitch he ever saw in the MLB. It was also in the Astrodome, a stadium noted for being favorable to pitchers. So run out to the world and tell them that Will Clark, a backup first baseman now, is better than strikeout king Nolan Ryan.

Do you have anything else showning why Iverson is better?
Debate Round No. 1
dorky

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allen iverson apg is a whole point higher than michael jordan and its a proven fact allen iverson has had worst teamates. Also have you ever heard that team work wns ball games and allen iverson is trying to build his team by doing assists and making his whole team better.
revleader5

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So MJ's PPG is 5 points higher than Iverson's, but Iverson's APG is one point higher than Jordan's so Allen is better?

Allen Iverson has 21,561 points 11 years into his career

Jordan had 24,491 points 11 years into his career.

Overall it is quite obvious that MJ is much better than Iverson.

You started this debate over a mere crossover, and now you're just grasping for arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by SocialistRI82 9 years ago
SocialistRI82
"practice? we're talking about practice man..." this is the guy who you think is the best ever?? Bill Russell craps on AI.
Posted by jazz123 9 years ago
jazz123
me too but also i think should brought up the point about steve nash being a point gaurd and have way more assist than A.I. so just one talent that he isnt even the best at in the league makes him the best player. Truly i think STeve NAsh and MIchael JOrdan are the 2 best players of all time
Posted by Rousseau 9 years ago
Rousseau
Probably so, or at least a friend. Honestly though, you did very well. I for one did vote for you. Even if I had been a AI fan I would have voted for you. I tend to, when judging, try to erase my opinion and just be persuaded. I think you did that very well.
Posted by revleader5 9 years ago
revleader5
I know Rousseau, I just wanted to know who else voted for him. They must be Iverson fans. :)
Posted by Rousseau 9 years ago
Rousseau
Don't appreciate the cockiness in the comment though.
Posted by Rousseau 9 years ago
Rousseau
MJ may have had better teammates, but in the beggining of his career, he lead the Bulls admirably. In fact, he may have gotten to the championship had it not been for the Pistons. Regardless, you can't say that a player who has never won a championship, is the best of all time. Even if he had terrible teammates (which he doesn't now), he should be winning if he is the best, and the next closest player (which according to Dorfy is MJ) is retired. He should be having a cakewalk. Also I very much liked revleaders metaphor, even if it didn't neccesarily apply, it was very nice.
Posted by revleader5 9 years ago
revleader5
Who else voted for dorky? I destroyed his arguments! Haha. Someone is an AI fan.
Posted by Dapperdan2007 9 years ago
Dapperdan2007
Dorky doesn't seem to realize that the statistic of assits is not the only determiner of a guy making his team better. Allen Iverson is a point guard; point guards are supposed to get more assists. Yet, he STILL only averaged 1 more assist per game than MJ. AI doesn't even have a real position; he is just a scorer. MJ is more clutch, and a more proven winner. The arguement of the crossover is clearly fallible.
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