Amending the Bill of Rights
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It is sad that we now live in a world that creates its own definitions and facts. The word amend itself means to CHANGE for the better, to ALTER by legal procedure or to REMOVE faults or errors. Your argument that my stance is to change the Bill of Rights as a whole, as it stands, is completely off base and has no validity. My argument is simply that AMENDMENTS are changes that WE the people are able to make to OUR constitution. They are NOT set in stone, not one of them. It is unconstitutional to state that we are unable as a people to make changes if need be following the amendment process specified in ARTICLE V of the constitution. Understanding this it is easily understood that your stance that the bill of rights CAN NOT be amended is entirely incorrect. You would be better to say it SHOULD NOT be amended IF it is a change for the worse that will strip the people of their freedom, but what if it is an improvement?
I am a gun owner myself and value the second amendment dearly. I do not believe that by limiting assault weapons you are in any way losing your second amendment right to be armed. You speak as if guns are outlawed completely and that your right has been revoked.
Does he first amendment guarantee us complete FREEDOM of speech and press? No. As Americans we are aware that this right is extended to a certain extent but that extent is not enumerated in the original bill of rights. Why is it limited? For the safety it provides against threats, defamation and slander etc.
Tell me, what do you personally need an assault rifle for, honestly? Does your bolt action rifle not do the trick for hunting? Does your shotgun not take care of home defense? And does your low ammunition clip handgun not suffice for target practice? I am willing to predict that the thought just now crossed your mind is that if there were a need for a revolution we would not be able to arm ourselves to regain freedom, but is that really the case? Wouldn't the armed forces stand to protect us? Would all military dissent? Would you be able to do nothing with the current guns that you have? Remember the rag tag patriots that won our freedom with limited resources and PLEASE have a little faith in the current citizens of the Union democrat, republican or independent.
1.) Do you agree or disagree according to the constitution (Article 5) WE are able to amend things, ANYTHING as WE the people see fit?
2.) If the solution to gun violence came in the form of an amendment (not that it necessarily will), you are stating you are 100% closed to that option?
3.) Where in the constitution does it state all amendments are changeable except the first ten?
There were more questions stated in my argument but we will start here.
1.) You are making the false assumption that I have already clarified in my first round argument that I wish to strip everyone of all rights such as freedom of speech, press, and right to bear arms. This assumption is wrong and as stated above is NOT my stance. My argument is ONLY that the bill of rights legally CAN be changed if needed. For example if we find a solution to gun violence we CAN make an amendment to improve the current 2nd amendment. We CAN make changes to the bill of rights if NEEDED but SHOULD NOT amend if changes are NOT NEEDED. It is unconstitutional to state we are unable to freely amend as WE see fit.
2.) Soldiers NEED assault weapons in the battle field. That is completely irrelevant to this debate and never once did I state or imply SOLDIERS should be sent into the battle field without assault weapons. If you wish to debate gun control laws more extensively and my personal opinion to that solution, I would be more than happy to debate it in a different debate for that specific subject. For now let's not stray to far from this subject. I apologize I encouraged that straying from the subject.
3.) I believe in the social contract theory upon which this nation is built, but I also believe WE the people still control this republic. WE the people have the power and if any rights are taken away or amendments made it is by OUR own hand.
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