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connyd123
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The Contender
TurianPrimarch
Con (against)
Losing
3 Points

America is not a Republican Democracy.

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connyd123
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/1/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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connyd123

Pro

The United States of America should not be labeled as a Republican Democracy, rather than a strict Capitalistic society, powered by a top few who create and shape laws in favor of their own greed rather than the interest of the people.
TurianPrimarch

Con

As the American republic directly (or indirectly, when you take the electoral college into consideration) chooses who is responsible for passing legislature and who is involved in the executive and legislative branch, America is undoubtedly a Republican Democracy. It is the fault of the Americans themselves if they elect a congressman or president that is greedy and not fit to make laws and/or enforce them.

A candidate's political platform is presented at the election, and the duty of electing the just and fit candidate is the sole responsibility of the voters.
Debate Round No. 1
connyd123

Pro

Hey, TurianPrimarch, glad you brought this point up.

For the sake of an easier "read and reply" method, I'll just label each of your points with a rebuttal to each of them below your claim.


"As the American republic directly (or indirectly, when you take the electoral college into consideration) chooses who is responsible for passing legislature and who is involved in the executive and legislative branch, America is undoubtedly a Republican Democracy."'
-I agree with you that the direct representation of people in our government does indeed rule under the term "Democratic Republic", however the issue is more focused on defining the government's system, but rather the value of how the government funtions. For example, a country ruled under a monarcy may have monarchistic rules, however the value of the government may be seen as a type of dictatorship by the people. The purpose of this is to debate wether or not America's Republican Democracy should be considered a variation of Capitalism.


" America is undoubtedly a Republican Democracy. It is the fault of the Americans themselves if they elect a congressman or president that is greedy and not fit to make laws and/or enforce them."
-Are you saying the American people are at fault for who is influenced by big business? Who is supposed to know the complete true motives by each political figure?

" A candidate's political platform is presented at the election, and the duty of electing the just and fit candidate is the sole responsibility of the voters."
-So do you believe government candidates with own up to the fact that they are being funded by big busniesses during thier campaigns? Like you said, the duty of election the just and fit candidate is the sole responsibility of the voters, howevere who are they to know the coorporations that fund them money?
TurianPrimarch

Con

TurianPrimarch forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
connyd123

Pro

Con has forfeited round, no conclusions to be further drawn.
TurianPrimarch

Con

TurianPrimarch forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
connyd123

Pro

No further arguments.
TurianPrimarch

Con

TurianPrimarch forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
connyd123

Pro

Vote aff.
TurianPrimarch

Con

TurianPrimarch forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Bennett91 2 years ago
Bennett91
If you want to be over technical, it's a democratic republic.
Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
Well... its a republic, not a democracy. Not to be overly technical, but you may want to sharpen the question.
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Reasons for voting decision: The Con's conduct was bad, but he made the point that, politically, we are a republican democracy. Capitalism is an economic system, not a political system, so responding that politicians favor some capital interests is not a valid response. Oligarchy and plutocracy are political conditions, a democratic republic is a governmental system, and capitalism is an economic model. Even though I don't like to reward Con by voting for his argument, the fact is that Pro didn't give any reason why we are not a republican democracy, all he really argued for is that plutocracy/oligarchy is a condition of our society. Con likely didn't go on because Con wasn't interested in continuing debate with someone who didn't understand the difference between political theory, governmental systems, and economic models. However, it's still a case where conduct should be weighed more severely than the arguments, and I apologize that my vote necessarily does not conform to that judgment b/c automatic settings.
Vote Placed by Zarroette 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's defence of his/her arguments went uncontested, so Pro wins arguments. Conduct to Pro for Con's round forfeits.