America needs more socialism.
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I will be arguing that America needs more socialism. Best of luck to my opponent!
First off, the word "fantasy" is the correct word to describe socialism and its benefits. The definition of fantasy is something that you imagine , and socialism is certainly not an imaginary concept. In fact, history has shown socialism to be beneficial. For example, extreme socialism (communism) caused Russia to come out of a period of time with a weak czarist government that was unindustrialized compared to the Western world. I am not saying that the US needs communism as the country is currently in a much different situation than WW1 Russia, although I have now proven socialism/communism has worked in the past to boost the economy, which is not a "fantasy". Socialism has also shown to be successful in modern societies, such as Denmark. Denmark is currently ranked #1 in the world in terms of the happiness of its people, and other countries that follow are Iceland and New Zealand . These countries aren't considered to be "socialist", but they are some of the most socialist countries on the earth (excluding communist nations). Keep in mind this debate regards America becoming more socialist, not completely socialist.
"Only Capitalism frees people from poverty. Enslaving people to the state increases it."
This is completely untrue, as the goal of socialism is for the public to own means of production. It focuses on benefits such as free healthcare, free college, child care, etc. , as illustrated in Denmark. Capitalism causes poverty and homelessness because it focuses on private ownership of means of production, therefore the small amount people that own corporations and even smaller businesses hold most of the power. In the United States, the large amount of people that don't own businesses (99%) only contain 1% of the wealth, therefore a large portion of this population suffers financial problems. Communism enslaved citizens of China in the 1950's during the Great Leap Forward, although this debate doesn't regard communism, but rather regards an increased amount of socialism the the United States.
Name one country where the state owning the means of production has resulted in a economy that matches the GDP of the United States. Start with Venezuela.
And, btw, there is such thing as a free anything. What you propose is slavery to the state, period.
You told be to mention one socialist country that has a higher GDP than the United States. This question actually goes in my favor since Switzerland and Norway, two countries that practice a good amount of socialism, are currently ranked ahead of the US in terms of GDP per capita . Venezuela is also a communist nation, not rather socialist like many economically successful countries in Europe. The question regards America becoming more socialist, not communist.
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