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America the Greatest Country in the world

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Started: 4/27/2010 Category: Politics
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Akemi_Loli_Mokoto

Con

People say "America is the Greatest Country in the World" but that is not true. The People who say that, fail to do proper research in to there reasons. Reasons like "Freedom" which is limited, "Military" which is not the best in the world, "Economy" which is failing and not the best in the world, ect... But the reality is the US is not the Greatest Nation. Its far from it. We are not a Mixing Pot, We are not the Most Free Nation, we do not have the Best Military, nothing. I can find nations that are proven to be better then the US in every category. (1)Our Crime Rate is the Worst in the World, (2)Our Debt is the worst of any nation by a large margin, (3)our military is low in numbers compared to India or China, (4)(4.1)our Freedom is not the best on earth, (5)Privacy is rated in with China and the UK. There is nothing definitive to say the US is the Best.
(1) http://www.nationmaster.com...
(2) http://www.nationmaster.com...
(3) http://www.nationmaster.com...
(4) http://en.wikipedia.org...
(4.1) http://en.wikipedia.org...
(5) http://en.wikipedia.org...
lastrequest691

Pro

America is the greatest nation on Earth because it has governed the pace of this world since the fall of the Mighty Soviet Union. The allies of America enjoy many privileges and rights.
Let us talk about why America is the greatest nation on Earth.

Economic Supremacy- In God We Trust
I hear even the most educated tell me that China is going to overcome US someday. Now we all know that only fools count chicks before they hatch and they have no idea what they are talking about. US has a GDP per capita of $ 42, 381 as of March 2009 (data provided by IMF) . It was $37,500 back in 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

It's going to take China 500 years or more to overcome US in per capita income. China will never come close to that $25,000 mark because this country's dominance will end soon due to several factors of which the main reason is that Chinese products only focuses on "Quantity" whereas US products focuses on "Quality." How long does China made keyboard last ? 4 to 6 months.

I believe that only European Union can walk toe to toe with the US Economy. And even the European economy depends on US consumers and imports. But if you look at the Stat you will find that not even 2/3rd of Europe can compete with US on Imports and Exports. Thanks to the "Strong Dollar" policy of the United States since 2001 that 1 Dollar is just 0.7468.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

I don't think this world can survive without the United States, it's like a Bible without King David.

I finish my First Round and let my opponent proceed with his counter attack.
Debate Round No. 1
Akemi_Loli_Mokoto

Con

The World can survive without the United States, but in the event of an Economic Collapse in the US, it would have extremely grave consequences on the world. It would take years if not decades, but the world would recover. Now the only thing you have commented on is the Economy of the US which is the highest in the world, but also the Worst in the World if ya look at the Debt and the Current Account Balance. But being one of 6 Economic Super Powers does not make America the Greatest. Let's take Freedom for example. People say the US is the Freest Nation in the World, which makes it the Greatest. In reality this is far from the truth. According to the Most Democratic Nation on Earth, the UN says it's Sweden. The US is only the 18th most democratic nation. Or how about Economic Freedom. According the Index created by the Fraser Institute, Hong Kong is the Freest. The US is 6th. Or in terms of the Privacy of Civilians. Greece is ranked #1. The US ranked 40th. It is one of 5 Nations which have an "Endemic Surveillance Society" might I add that's where China and North Korea sits. Finally Look at Freedom all together. There are 92 Nations that the Freedom House say are Free Nations. (1) 13 of those nations are totally 100% Free. The United States is NOT one of them.

(1) http://en.wikipedia.org...
lastrequest691

Pro

One Nation under God- United States of America

Like Augustine once said, "There is a God sized void in every man's heart that only God can fill."
A world without United States is the most dangerous thing that could happen to this world. Only a Super power could fill that void and there is no country not even EU that can fill that gap. Even if China, India, Japan, Australia and all other Asian countries united there is no way it could come close to the super power status of the Mighty United States.

Maybe I am over hyping the United States of America but there is no country in the world which is free as the US. There is no country like the United States because it is simply the Best. No country in the world has influenced the world as has the United States. I would call USA the Roman Empire of the modern day. The greatest nation on Earth but I wish they were Theo Oligarchy nation under one God. A man can wish.

As far as the economy is concerned the world depends on United States as the absence of US consumers would mean that EU's economy would dry like a branch cut off from the tree. US imports 20%+ goods from the EU which is more than Asian Consumer consumption. Now if you remove the US consumers then who would buy those goods produced by EU- Nobody. Result- Depression back to 1930's.

In other words every nation depends on each other for survival so if you remove one then you messed the "Economic Chain"- Wow, that is a new word I created. The world depends on US and US also depends on the world but the world depends more on US. Since, US consumers consume 60% of the goods produced domestically so we can say that US can sustain itself even if it were cut off from the rest of the world. But isn't that the reason why we call United States of America- The Lone Superpower.

When you sum it all up - US is THE Superpower.

Did you know that US produced 300,000 jobs in one month alone in March 2010 ?
I think only US could do that. Those jobs were not labour or Military jobs but we are talking about the white collar jobs.

God Bless USA and Benny Hinn
Debate Round No. 2
Akemi_Loli_Mokoto

Con

Once again your wrong. Japan is the closes to the US in terms of Economic Power. According to the UN, Japan has a Positive influnce in every nation on earth except 2: North Korea and China. The US has a positive influnce on less nations then Japan. In reality, the world could live with out the US, but not with out Japan. Looking at Military power, the United States is not very strong. China has over 2 million in power and spends a large amount of money towards its military. The US has one million, and does the same. If you look at numbers x GDP, China would wip the United States butt and still be able to fight another war afterwards. It is pure Nationalism to say the US is the Greatest in the World when all signs show the US is not.
lastrequest691

Pro

United States of America- Superior Military

Japan is a great economic giant but it is not the greatest military power. Every transaction is done in dollars and not in yet because Yen is weak in the international market.

US is also a Military Superpower. The US Army has the most sophisticated weapons in it's armory. Just think of USA as the Roman Empire on Steroids. To be the mightiest nation on earth one has to be a military super power and that is what US is all about.

There is no Air Force in the world that comes close to that of the US. And adding salt to this US has 64% of aircraft that evade the radar. Ever heard of F-35 Lightning, it has the most sophisticated radar in the world and once release it will be sold to 8 nations around the world. F-35's radar is superior than F-22 Raptor. Let's not forget F-22 Raptor- the most advanced tactical/air superiority fighter in the world. (See Wikipedia)

Did you know that a Ballistic Missile from US can reach anywhere in the world ?
US is the only nation to have such a long range conventional missile. Russia is second with 11,500 km range. US also has 2nd strike capability. Which means that US will be able to strike with a nuclear weapon even if an enemy has managed to nuke US. That's sweet. Only 6 nations are capable of such 2nd Strike- US, Russia, Israel, Great Britain, France and China. There is no Japan there.

Its not just about the economy that makes a nation a Super Power but it's about the balance of both Military and Economy.
Debate Round No. 3
Akemi_Loli_Mokoto

Con

Ok look, we all know the US is one of 5 Economic Superpowers in the world, but let's look at crime:

Safety is important in determining a countries level of Reasonable Arrogance. So naturally Crime is looked in to. And boy, let me tell you, this will be FUN! Because the USA SUCKS in this category. Let's get started!
The Nations of Importance is Japan, UK, and the USA.

Acquitted: What nation is most likely to acquit you of a crime? India! They rank #1 in that field. But the UK Ranks # 5. Japan ranked #55 the US failed to submit their stats to the UN. Let's dig deeper in to it. It's really worrying to note that our conviction rate has declined "from 64.8 per cent in 1961 to 41.8 in 2000 and 40.8 in 2001." The reality is that our conviction rate for certain crimes is as low as 14.9% (terrorist and disruptive activities), assault/murder cases 6.2%, molestation cases 4.8%. And these are the 2001 figures!

Countries like Japan have a conviction rate of 99.97 percent, China has a conviction rate of about 98 percent, Russia is at 90 percent and Britain has 74 percent. And you can't say, "Maybe that's because they are not getting a fair trial" because that's nothing but bull crap and you know it. The US Jails more of its people then any nation on earth.

Adults prosecuted: The US Prosecutes over 14,000,000 Americans per year. That's FAR more then Turkey which ranks #2. The UK ranked #3 and that's 14 times their Prosecution Numbers. Japan ranked 14th.

Assaults: Guess who ranks #1? The USA. The UK is #2. And Japan is #15. So basically, if you come to the US, there's a good chance your goanna get your tail kicked by someone. At least a bigger chance than in any other nation. Way-to-go America!

Believe in police efficiency: If your too ignorant to understand what that means, it means, the % of people who believe in the Police. The USA is ranked #1 in that. 89% of its people believe in the Police. That's good. It's the only positive thing you will see from now on in this blog subject. Let's get back to work.

Burglaries: The US wins first place in this! They have more Break-ins then any nation. Two times the amount Germany (#2) has. The UK was #3 and Japan #8. So lock your doors and keep alarms on.

Car thefts: The US is #1 in that category, AGAIN. UK is #2. The margin that separates the UK and the USA in this category is HUGE! Japan is #12.

Now before you people go off and say the only reason the US has high Convection Rates and High Crime is mostly because Drug Offences take a look at this:

Drug Offences: Germany ranked #1. They have more Drug Offences. The UK ranked #2. Japan ranked #10 The US Ranked 41. So suck it! That shocked me, but it disproves one theory you nationalist!!!

Embezzlement's: Russia took the top spot on this one. The UK took 3rd, the US 4th, and Japan 25th. Flat and Simple baby. Flat and Simple.

Frauds: Germany was #1 again. The USA #2. The UK #3. And Japan #12.

Kidnappings: This is important. The United Kingdom ranked #1 on this. Japan ranked #11. The US did not submit a stat report to the UN. So we had to do some research. And it turns out the US is #1 in this category. Over 800,000 kidnappings. The UK has less than that, but the UK does not comply stats on Child Abductions for some reason.

Murders: India was highest in this field. The US was 5th. The UK was 14th and Japan 27th.

Murders committed by youths: Brazil was ranked first. The US #3. The UK was 29th. Japan failed to submit their stats.

Murders with firearms: South Africa was First. The US was 4th. UK was 39th. Japan was 28th.
Police: India has a little over 1 million officers in their nation. That's more than any nation. The US is second. Japan is 6th. The UK is 9th.

Prisoners: This is interesting but not shocking. The US has more prisoners then any nation on earth period. Guess who is second? CHINA! But the US has double the amount China has. The Communist Nation of China has less prisoners then the US but has FAR more people. Congrats America, YOU SUCK! Anyway, The UK was 15th and Japan was 19th

Rapes: The USA is #1 here. Oh my bloody god, that doesn't shock me. The UK was 7th and Japan was 20th.

Reporting to police: 52% of Americans report crimes to the police. New Zealand is ranked #1. The US is ranked 7th. Japan is lowest ranked with only 32%. The UK is ranked 5th. With the hell?

Robberies: Spain was ranked #1. The US was ranked 3rd. The UK was 7th. Japan was 30th.

FINALLY the big daddy. Total Crimes!

Total Crimes: The USA was #1 in total crimes. The UK was #2. Japan was #6. Here is the thing; the US has 2 times the total crime in the US and almost 6 times the total crime in Japan.

And on the last note, Political Rankings!

Who is the freest nation on earth? Who is Politically Great? Who is the Greatest? We shall go to the UN's Indexes for that information. According to the Democracy Index, Sweden is the Most Democratic Nation. The US is 18th. Democracy means freedom. Making Sweden the Freest nation. Japan is 17th. The UK is 21th. JAPAN IS MORE FREE THEN THE USA! Wanna dispute the facts the UN provided? Fair enough. Let's look at it this way: The US banned More Media and Books then China. The US Government is run on MORALS which makes it hard for Freedom to exist in the US. These Morals are false and 100% screwed up because dispute the US being CLAIMED to be a Christian Nation it is still the most criminally active nation. More Rapes then any nation. So The US is NOT a Christian Nation. Unless Christians are Rapist. Which I'm starting to think is true. Germany is more free then the USA. That says a lot doesn't it? So what is the least freest nation? NORTH KOREA!

So basely The US is not a free nation. There are 16 nations I can name that are freer then the USA! SO SUCK IT YOU NATIONALIST!!!

But wait, there's more from the UN. We will now look at the Privacy Rankings! Greece is ranked #1 in Privacy of its people. Japan is 25th. THE USA IS 40TH! China is 45th. The UK is 43rd. So basically the US is horrid in its privacy for its people. The US is classified between "Extensive surveillance societies" and "Endemic surveillance societies". HAHAHA, congrats America, your almost as bad as China.

There are 89 nations that are classified as Free. The US is not the only one. 62 nations are partially free. 42 nations are not free.

In terms of the Property Rights Index, Finland is #1. The UK is 8th. Japan is 16th. The US is 19th. This means you can't even have full Property Rights in the US.

According to the Global Enabling Trade Report's, Enabling Trade Index, Hong Kong is #1! Japan is #13. The US is #14 and the UK is 16th.

If we look at the Press Freedom Index, Denmark and 4 other nations is #1. Japan is 17th. The UK and USA is 20th.

According to the Bribe Payers Index, Switzerland is #1. The UK is #6. The US is tied with Belgium for 9th/10th. Japan is 11th. What the BPI measures is how willing a nation appears to comply with demands for corrupt business practices.

According to the Corruption Perceptions Index, which list the countries of the world according to "the degree to which corruption is perceived to exist among public officials and politicians".[

The US SUCKS in its Freedom and Privacy. It's just as screwed up as China and the Proof is right bloody there! I rest my case and leave my respectful opponent to reply.

http://www.covenantnews.com...
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lastrequest691

Pro

US- The Lone Super Power

US may not be the safest country but it is a free country where people from all religions are given the opportunity to do what they like. That is what makes US better than UK because Muslims and Hindus are looked upon as an alien in the UK.

If there was a non-African country where a black president would be chosen by the people it was the US. You see in the US people do not look at the religion, race or any form of physical attributes but they look into the qualification and the heart of the candidate. I will never see a Christian or a Jewsish Indian President in India, that is for sure. Why ?
It's the Religion, Caste System and the Racists that live here. Who says that Racism does not exist in India ? Well it does. Indians are hypocrites who claim to be against Racism when they themselves are Racists. When Sonia Gandhi was going to be our first Woman Prime Minister the BJP denied her and said the she was a foreigner. People of US did not say that Barack Obama is from Kenya, did they ?

You talked about India being an unsafe place, I don't think so. The last time I heard of murder in the state of Sikkim it was some 8 months ago. Maybe other parts of India have a high crime rate but that does not mean the entire nation is a crime hub.

Back to the Topic-
How could you talk about Japan when we are talking about US ?
Just because US has high assault race does not mean that the whole US practices Violence. I am sure States that lie in the Bible Belt region are peaceful and let's not forget that most Eastern states in the US are Catholics (Not New Orleans). Yay!

My friend you are going off point - What does Drug Abuse, Rape and Murder has to do with Super Power ?
Drug Abuse, Rape and Murder are normal crimes. It takes place in every country in the world. No country is free from these crimes. Ask yourself a question- Is there any country in the world that does not have a record of Drug Abuse, Rape & Murder in the past ? NO

Rape & Murder is nothing compared to Hitler's genocide. Crimes such as Rape & Murder only include individuals or a small community- and we do not care about that. Whereas when a man like Hitler becomes a Prime Minister of England or let's say the President of France then the world is in Peril. That is when you expect a Super Power to tame the beast. A Super Power's job is not to look after small domestic crimes such as rape, murder, it's job is to make sure that the peace is maintained.

A Super Power influences the globe and you are limiting the Super Power by bringing up small crimes that takes place in every nation on earth. We can be sure that as long as the United States of America is the Super Power - Peace will always be maintained. The Bottomline- Smaller crimes such as rape, murder is nothing compared to Hitler's genocide and to avoid such genocides we need a Super Power that believes in Freedom and the Right of the entire Human Beings to live and let live. That is where US comes in- The lone Super Power.

The United States of America with it's allies are gift to this World-
God Bless United States of America

THE END.
Debate Round No. 4
Akemi_Loli_Mokoto

Con

Ok um, apparently you are a nationalist and your unable to debate on a fair basis. So let me educate you on reality my friend. First off, lets look at what a "Super Power"(in the political sense) means:

A superpower is a state with a leading position in the international system which has the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests. We can determine this by 2 categories. Economy and Military Power. Going at the 5 Greats in no order this time. So lets look at Economy first.

Economy(GDP*millions of USD*)- United States($14,430,000), Japan(5,108,000), European Union($16,447,259), China($4,908,982), and Germany($3,652,824). Winner, European Union.

Military Power: Iran(Over 11 million Troops), China, North Korea, Vietnam, India. They all have over 5 million in there military. The US is not in a top 5 in man power.

All and all the US is NOT THE LONE WORLD SUPERPOWER! If you insist on saying it again, I request you provide a reliable source to back it up. Otherwise, please save that nationalist crap for someone who is not as smart as me.
Next who says that that the US is the only non African nation to have a black leader? Example, Frances Justice Minister is Algerian. Canada's Governor General is Haitian. She is considered in Canada as being the first black head of state in the western world.

All you have done is bitch about what I said, instead of providing reliable sources to back up anything you have said, Your nationalist views are blinding your ability to debate.

The US is not the only free nation. www.freedomhouse.org
My case is made.
lastrequest691

Pro

USA- the Last Empire before Mystery Babylon

It's time to end this argument. Other countries may have more quantity of infantry soldiers but we are talking about quality and US hits the spot.

You talk about the influence - The decision of American President can change my life more than the decision of the President of India. You call yourself smart- well that just scared me.
We are talking about Super Power here it is ok to talk about France but not Canada. This country does not deserve to be in the Super Power League. I would rather put Denmark ahead of Canada in both Military and Economic field.

Thanks for debate- I hope the best Person wins this debate.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Cwr123987 5 years ago
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China, with all due respect doesn't have the reach of the US millitary. Just taking coventional warfare into account, China will be limited to a defensive posture (defending its mainland), or at best a very regional offensive capability. We can concentrate our Carriers and bring some much more lethality to bear on an small portion of their mainland ,then you have your oilspot. No question we would lose Carrier(s) but we would have that land mass to stage our Air Forces from (Not to mention the army and the Marines, but that would be a battle lost before it is even fought to pursue that option) and expand our force numbers, particularly high value strike packages. With the things listed above complete we systematically destroy their ability to produce, maintain, and pursue a war. don't get me wrong alot of lives will be lost, as well as much more equipment, but the end results will be a defeated China , who probably won't be able to stop an invasion from Tibet.Their government knows it, Ours knows it, as well as the millitary elite.
Now on the nuke side of things it's even farther apart than the convetional aspect, don't even want to discuss this.
Truthfully, toe to toe the most we have to worry about is Russia and thats probably the way it will be for the next 20 to 30 years. China is making signifcant leaps and it will be a day when they can maybe stand toe to toe with us but that day is not today people. Sorry for the truth.
Posted by tBoonePickens 5 years ago
tBoonePickens
wolfhaines is a perfect example of an arrogant European socialist. Switzerland, as well as many others in Europe have the USA to thank that they don't speak German today. Don't be jeally, K ?
Posted by Devyezz.1 6 years ago
Devyezz.1
Scotland is the greatest country in the world... America is second. Scotland have freedom and are good people as well as great warriors! William Wallace was aGod... Freedom!!!!! Irn Bru is the best drink in the World aswell.
Posted by wolfhaines 6 years ago
wolfhaines
tBoonePickens is my perfect example of an ignorant American. Switzerland relies upon NOONE for national security, it has no enemies. It is neutral. It has one of the worlds biggest trained reserve forces too. None of which has anything to do with the USA. Not to mention the only threats it could have are Austria, France, Germany, Italy. None of which have ever invaded or showed aggression towards them, not even during 2 world wars. Your ignorance/arrogance is pathetic.
Posted by wolfhaines 6 years ago
wolfhaines
One thing is clear. Regardless of the evidence that Akeni_Loli_Mokoto puts forward (which they do well), people are still too blinded by nationalism to take note. Perhaps if Americans accepted they aren't the greatest country in the world in anything except killing people (military), then they could work towards making it the greatest in the world. Spot your flaws and find a solution. NOT stick your head in the sand, wave a flag, shout U-S-A, bomb something then go "hell yeah, we rock!".
Posted by Shtookah 6 years ago
Shtookah
........ guy below me...... really?
Posted by tBoonePickens 7 years ago
tBoonePickens
Let's see each point, one by one:
Was the church in charge of England when it colonized? Answer: no.
Was the church in charge of the US when the Indians were wiped out? Answer: no.
Was the church in charge during slavery? Answer: no.
Was the church responsible for Jim Crow laws? Answer: no.

As you can see annhasle, you couldn't be more hopelessly wrong. This is because man has been perfectly capable of colonization, genocide, slavery, oppression, rampant ignorance, all without the help of religion.

Switzerland depends on US for its security.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
Switzerland is the greatest country in the world.
Posted by annhasle 7 years ago
annhasle
Rrriiiggghhhttt.... because "Christian Heritage" would be the best thing. Oh wait! What happened when church and state were the same?? Colonization, genocide, slavery, oppression, rampant ignorance.... Yeah, America needs more of that right now. 0_0
Posted by Jesusrules 7 years ago
Jesusrules
America used to be the greatest until someone let democrats leak in to the government and destroyed our Christian heritage and decided america should be and humanistic country and allowed a load of horrible crimes to become legal.
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