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Kwipf13
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Actions_Speak
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American Involvement in wars

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Started: 1/29/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Kwipf13

Pro

Since the founding of America we have fought wars and most of those wars we have fought abroad. These wars are risking but at the end of the day these war spur the American economy and benefit everyone financially. In fact war brought our economy out of the Great Depression and got our economy back on track after the market crashed. Another reason we need to fight in wars is because if we choose when we join we can keep the wars abroad instead of on American soil. We need to do this because we can protect American people and American infrastructure. For people who remember the September eleventh attacks we know the importance of keeping the wars abroad to protect our nation from the evils we are fighting so the evil doest"t come and hurt us here at home. If we stay away from these fights we leave ourselves open to attack, sometimes the best defense is a good offense meaning that the best way to protect our borders is to go over to the enemy and hit them where it hurts. The last thing I want to say is if we don"t go fight these wars in places like Iraq and Syria we leave their citizens exposed to the threat of tyranny and as a country I think it is immoral for us to not go help those defenseless people.
Actions_Speak

Con

Thanks for starting this debate, and may we both learn. I honestly have little clue where to begin with all the incursions the United States has been in and how general the subject of war is in the past, present, and future so I'll probably mention all in various ways.

Nowadays our economy is doing better than ever and not thanks to any war efforts[1], in fact these small skirmishes may never be worth the risk again. In terms of nuclear risk, I strongly believe if the risk of nuclear annihilation is 0.01% it's already not worth it regardless of other circumstances such as potential debt increase, oil increases, and casualties. Aside from this, we all know of the tragic events that occurred on 9/11. What might not be common knowledge are the incursions in the middle east that caused the hatred, had we not interfered Bin Laden wouldn't have targeted us in a revenge attack. One fast facts about bin Laden:
[2] Following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, US troops arrive in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden is reportedly outraged at their presence, and soon begins to target the United States for its presence on Saudi soil near the Muslim holy sites of Mecca and Medina.
This certainly wasn't our only engagement with him throughout war in the middle east but it was the beginning.
Simply put our engagements in war are not self-defensive as they must be in today's day and age.

To quote Einstein "I know not with what weapons ww3 will be fought but ww4 will be fought with sticks & stones"

These petty fights we've found ourselves in have already nearly led to something much worse than casualties but rather mutually assured destruction of Russia and the United States. One such incident under Lyndon Johnson was when Joint Chiefs were willing to risk nuclear war for Vietnam.[3] As a proud American I am displeased with just how close we've been to provoking a possible nuclear war with Russia. Even recently then-candidate Hillary Clinton threw caution to the wind with no fly zone plans in Syria which threatened to spark US-Russia conflict. [4]

In addition any economic benefits has come at a heavy blood price, however if is very hard to tell if they aided the us economically whatsoever. While the great depression certainly ended during world war 2 is it hard to tell if the war is the cause and varying arguments have been made on this. [5]

However, I understand that some beneficial land grabs have been made which in my opinion have been the most redeeming wars, yet our greatest land grabs were purchases. Needless to say almost all land grabs have come at the expense of the natives who one could argue lived a happier and simpler life, but that's long ago and little was recorded so I won't be making that argument. Also great risks were assumed in these land grabs, The war of 1812 began with an attempted land grab towards Canada. The attack failed, and they hit us back HARD. They quite literally burned down the White House. [6]

[1] http://money.cnn.com...
[2] https://www.cnn.com...
[3]http://nationalinterest.org...
[4]https://www.theguardian.com...
[5]https://www.theatlantic.com...
[6]http://www.history.com...
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Posted by Debating_Horse 5 months ago
Debating_Horse
Good luck to the con person!
Posted by missmedic 5 months ago
missmedic
America Has Been At War 93% of the Time " 222 Out of 240 Years " Since 1776, the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth.
Posted by Debating_Horse 5 months ago
Debating_Horse
Will accept this in the next 20 hours upon no one else making a move.
Posted by Nd2400 5 months ago
Nd2400
Umm. What happen in 2008? Oh the crash. And now 2018 the economy is booming the highest on record for the housing market and for the stock market. And guess What? We didn't need a war for this.
Posted by RONDEBATES1211 5 months ago
RONDEBATES1211
I agree with Pro
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