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alyakimbackwards
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MyDinosaurHands
Pro (for)
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Americans are free.

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MyDinosaurHands
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/12/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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alyakimbackwards

Con

I do not think that Americans are really free. I hear things like "they came to America to be free" in movies, but are we really free? We abide by laws, have duties, and accept responsibilities stated in the constitution. If we do something unlawful, we are punished by jail, or even death. How are we any different from slaves? Sure, we can walk around the United States, but we can't leave it without a passport. If the government tells us to do something, we must do it or there will be consequences.
MyDinosaurHands

Pro

Americans are free.

First I'd like to discuss the concept presented by Mikayla that since we as America are bound by the laws of our country, we are not truly free. To this I would say that Americans have the ability to participate in the making of laws and concepts to which they are bound. They can participate through electing representatives or becoming directly involved by representing others. People have the ability to shape their lives in a Democracy.

"How are we any different than slaves?" Slaves are unpaid laborers, people in America are paid for their labor.

"If the government tells us to do something, we must it or there will be consequences." I return to the ideas presented in my first paragraph: that we as Americans have the ability to get involved in the workings of their country. We have the ability to vote for representatives who will support laws or policies that we agree with, and if that isn't good enough, we ourselves can become the representatives.

Freedom hinges on free will, and the ability to control one's destiny, and the system in America provides just that, as long as people are willing to be involved in the workings of their country.
Debate Round No. 1
alyakimbackwards

Con

alyakimbackwards forfeited this round.
MyDinosaurHands

Pro

Hopefully my opponent will get back online in time to continue the next round of debate. I hope anybody who is voting notes her forfeiture when considering who had better conduct.
Debate Round No. 2
alyakimbackwards

Con

alyakimbackwards forfeited this round.
MyDinosaurHands

Pro

End Debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by OtakuJordan 3 years ago
OtakuJordan
Yes, and it completely destroys Con's stance on law.
Posted by ararmer1919 3 years ago
ararmer1919
Wow great quote
Posted by ararmer1919 3 years ago
ararmer1919
Wow great quote
Posted by OtakuJordan 3 years ago
OtakuJordan
"So that, however it may be mistaken, the end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom: for in all the states of created beings capable of laws, where there is no law, there is no freedom: for liberty is, to be free from restraint and violence from others; which cannot be, where there is no law: but freedom is not, as we are told, a liberty for every man to do what he lists: (for who could be free, when every other man's humour might domineer over him?) but a liberty to dispose, and order as he lists, his person, actions, possessions, and his whole property, within the allowance of those laws under which he is, and therein not to be subject to the arbitrary will of another, but freely follow his own." -Locke
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Vote Placed by dtaylor971 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO wins due to FF.
Vote Placed by Romanii 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro obviously wins because he was able to effectively counter Con's contentions, and Con forfeited all her rounds after that.
Vote Placed by Bannanawamajama 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Mikayla didn't really participate in the debate. No real choice here.