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Americans are stupid

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Started: 5/1/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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nonprophet

Pro

Round 1 is for acceptance ONLY
Dynasty2468

Con

I accept. Good luck!
Debate Round No. 1
nonprophet

Pro

American are stupid.
http://youtu.be...

50% of Americans can't spell simple words.
http://www.medindia.net...

The most recent National Geographic/Roper Poll (2006) found that half the 18–24-year-old Americans surveyed could not locate New York on a map of the United States, and nearly 6 in 10 could not locate Ohio.
http://www.esri.com...

In mathematics, 29 nations and other jurisdictions outperformed the United States by a statistically significant margin, up from 23 three years ago,
http://www.npr.org...

One-third of Americans don’t believe in evolution
http://www.foxnews.com...


Poll: Nearly 8 in 10 Americans believe in angels
http://www.cbsnews.com...


Americans don't have a clue about Astronomy
http://youtu.be...

1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says
http://www.npr.org...

I can go on and on...but I think I made the point.
Dynasty2468

Con

First of all, may I point out that the statistic did NOT say 100% of Americans can't spell the simple words or don't believe in evolution. Therefore, not all Americans is stupid. Second of all, most of the the number of Americans that is "stupid" is half or less than half.

50% of American can't spell.
HALF of the 18-24 year-old couldn't locate New York. I'll admit defeat on the Ohio part.
29/196 is about 30/200. 30/200=15%.
1/3= 33.3333333333%
I will admit defeat on the Angel part.
Youtube part: How old is that video?
1/4=25%. LESS THAN 50%.
Can I also point out that some of the Pro's resources is outdated?
I would like to thank my opponent for training me for the math exam tomorrow.
Debate Round No. 2
nonprophet

Pro

The debate is "Americans are stupid", not "All Americans are stupid".

I have shown that American are stupid at one thing or another.

Not all Americans are stupid when it comes to math (for example), but the ones smart at math can be stupid at something else.

Considering the amount of stupidity in America, I would say that most Americans are stupid when it comes to a topic they should know about (science, math, history, politics, civics, law, geography, foreign languages, etc.)

What amazes me is that most Americans are well educated on things like sports trivia, celebrity gossip, entertainment news, music lyrics, movie trivia, TV trivia, Bible versus and other worthless knowledge. The time and brain power wasted on such things is really stupid.

Just the fact that this debate "offends" or is meaningful to some Americans shows how stupid they are. It's a debate.

So compared to the populations of other countries, Americans are, indeed, stupid.

Thanks for the debate.


Dynasty2468

Con

I am pretty sure if I say "Indian are stupid" or "german are stupid" or "Polish are stupid", they'll get mad at me and say that those are offensive. In your view, I would just say you guys are all STUPID!!!! In another word, the whole world is stupid because I think their country is stupid and they say that it's offensive.
"The debate is 'American are stupid', not 'All American are stupid' " Why not add the word "some"?
You also forgot a country. The North Korea. What amazes me is that they waste most of their resources on the statue of their leaders and the military.
Also, you forgot other country. I am pretty sure many countries (Especially the First World countries), remember sports trivia, celebrity gossip, entertainment news, music lyrics, movie trivia,Tv trivia, etc.
Good Debate! (Equivalent of GG)
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by E_Pluribus_Unum 3 years ago
E_Pluribus_Unum
'The debate is "Americans are stupid", not "All Americans are stupid".

'I have shown that American are stupid at one thing or another.' - nonprophet in the third round.

Unless you specifically show the non-universality of a statement from an adjective or other part of speech, you are giving the universal form of the statement. Saying 'Americans are "stupid"' strictly implies that you mean all of them are "stupid". Statements are guilty of being meant to be applicable everywhere unless specifically stated otherwise. If I were to say "creationists are good at rationalizing", just as an example, then I would be saying that if you are a creationist, then you are good at rationalizing by virtue of being a creationist. That's what the sentence means; there are no limits to the sentence's application unless I place one (such as "creationists who have college education are good at rationalizing").

And is pro honestly saying he has won this debate because he has shown a large amount of Americans are "stupid" at any one thing? By that definition everyone is stupid. But such a definition gives no meaning. Although I am stupid when it comes to surgery, am I a stupid person? By pro's definition, the answer is yes. I don't find it very honest to say everyone is stupid at one thing or another, but then debate that Americans are stupid.

Now I realize a contradiction: pro argues that he has shown Americans are stupid one way or another, but wants to limit the debate to saying that the debate isn't "all Americans are stupid". Did pro just try to provide evidence on a topic ("I have shown that American are stupid at one thing or another.") he self-admittedly claimed the debate wasn't on ("The debate is "Americans are stupid", not "All Americans are stupid".")? I believe that is called an Ignoratio elenchi, or red herring.
Posted by Dynasty2468 3 years ago
Dynasty2468
@nonprophet Were you talking to me?
Posted by Loveshismom 3 years ago
Loveshismom
Well nothing stopped me from voting. I was only helping Dynasty 2468 stand up for our Amaerican brethren.
Posted by nonprophet 3 years ago
nonprophet
If you didn't like it, you should not have debated.
Posted by Loveshismom 3 years ago
Loveshismom
Well racist or not it's still hypocritical and troll of you.
Posted by nonprophet 3 years ago
nonprophet
A nationality is not a race.
Posted by Loveshismom 3 years ago
Loveshismom
Racism is hating people of another race. That's racist.
Posted by nonprophet 3 years ago
nonprophet
That's not what racist is.
Posted by Loveshismom 3 years ago
Loveshismom
Oh right this is a one-point thing. Con gets the point.
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