An individual's actions doesn't necessarily represent their religion
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I am not saying that there aren't any actions that represent religion. What I am saying is that some actions are mistaken for being associated with religion.
Dear opponent, I would like to know your thoughts on this concept.
(Note that everything I say is a personal opinion, I understand and respect yours.)
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However in light of recent events, it is rational to look to the culprits religion as a cause for there actions. Many if not all religious groups have large or minor terrorist cells; the people in these terrorist cells often are convinced that they must take aggressive action against a certain group of people, because they believe this is what there religion want them to do. To them in there distorted version of what might be a peaceful "friendly" religion they believe that there religion and there god would want them to commit an atrocity. So it is safe to assume before proving evidence to support otherwise that there religion may have played a role in there actions.
I agree with your statement: "because they believe this is what their religion want them to do." The problem is that they "believe" it is the right thing, because they are misguided about their own religion. Therefore they are the cause of the stereotype. But stereotypes are often not true.
Even though with the recent events, I do not think it's rational to blame the culprit's religion, even if the violence and terror is caused mostly by people with the same religion. They might be using the name of religion in order to achieve their violence. Media plays a big role in displaying the picture of certain religions, too.
If we assume religion is the cause of different actions, especially dangerous and violent ones, then there are powers that practice violence but it is not blamed on their religion. Why are some religions blamed while others not? Other reason than stereotypes is that in fact it is not the religion to be blamed. It is the person, regardless of their religion. In my opinion, religions are sometimes exploited to express personal thoughts.
Also, how would you answer this question: If we never expose culprits' religions, where would we say are those individuals getting their thoughts from?
therefore until proven otherwise the cultprits religion should be considered a possible a motive.
In this third round, I would like to summarize my point:
- People act violently in the name of God and in the name of their religion, while their religions call for peace.
- Violent actions have no religion.
- If religion is considered the cause of terrifying acts, almost all religions would be imperfect.
- It is important to distinguish between political terrorism and religious terrorism. In most cases the cause is political.
- In his book How Evil Works, David K. writes: "Genocidal madness can't be blamed on a particular philosophy or religion."
Dear opponent, I am willing to see your summary as well.
-these people who act violently in the name of god and there religion are representing a different point of view of there religion, although most may view the meaning of there religion as one that calls for peace there are some who may have a different more violent idea of its meaning. This is similar to how there are many different interpretations of the bibles meaning which is why there are so many different "sub groups" such as Protestants, Catholics, Russian Orthodox, Mormons and so on. All of them interpret the meaning of the bible very differently.
-in some cases there are religions that endorse violence against certain groups in order to obtain peace. Making this statement untrue.
-yes this is true, all religions are imperfect because they all lead to people misinterpreting the meaning which results in violence. Also religions are often abused for political gain.
-political terrorism and religious terrorism are often intertwined, terrorist groups use religion as a way to motivate people behind what may be a more political cause. More commonly groups will simply do these terrorist actions out of purely religious reasons.
-I think what the author meant was that you cant generalize a religion because of the actions of a few people who may have interpreted the meaning differently.
to summarize my points
-a reason for violence is a persons religion in some cases, because the meaning of a religion can be interpreted differently
-Until proving otherwise it is reasonable to assume that a persons religion may have played a role in there actions.
-some religions do endorse violence the majority of religions do not
-a persons actions reflects there interpretation of there religion or in some cases may be a direct interpretation of there religion
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