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Anger can be a good moral motivation

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Started: 12/23/2013 Category: Philosophy
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Mavpa

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According to Aristotle we should develop a right way of feeling the anger and a correct way way of channeling it into an action.
(1) Some sensations perform as support if they used for good.
(2) Anger is necessitating: no fight can be succeeded without it, without its filling the mind and lighting enthusiasm.
(3) People become morally better as persons by anger on themselves.
(4) Therefore, anger is a good moral motivation
People should adopt it and it can have some good consequences.
For example in World War II people would not fight and win against Germans without anger.
Or when people feel angry at themselves they try to make others feel different and do moral deeds.
Jvon

Con

You quote Aristotle saying that a man fights harder when using anger, however IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE THAT anger makes man fight harder. Seneca said that virtue needs no vice to suffice. Things are done because they should be done. Based on the way you use anger it can be compared to a drug. A man may sniff cocaine and feel like the strongest man in the world. This is not a good moral motivator but it's the same as what Aristotle explains.
Anger is nothing more than a cowards drug used to be brave for a moment. Actions that are good are always good, with no emotion needed. The statement you made about people becoming morally better as person through anger is IRRELEVANT. People become unstable and irrational when angry, because once you get mad, you will end getting angrier until you eventually explode. Anger is the proper way for a man to destroy himself, rather than do what's right in a situation.
People fought the germans based on the actions they were doing being morally wrong. No emotion intended.
Debate Round No. 1
Mavpa

Pro

But is not necessarily the case that other things will be as strong as anger is. So we can consider it as a really good factor. It is irrelevant to compare anger with drugs, because people use drugs in order to feel better and anger is something that is natural to human being.
But with anger you won't back up. You will stay till the end, which does not apply with drugs.
People cannot do their deeds and do not feel anything, there must be any emotion.
It is not necessarily the case that person will go crazy and destroy himself. But for example, if you fail exam, you become angry and next time will try to do it much better.
Russians fought not because of actions, but because of anger.
Jvon

Con

What you said about the test is a possible outcome, but people who really start failing in college get angry and at times end up dropping out. I think students dropping out is more likely. Anger is a very strong emotion, one that is also unpredictable,unreliable, and something you can't control. In most cases you don't know your going to get mad. So how I could you control the outcome of something you don't know. It's literally not possible. Saying that anger will keep you from backing down is IRRELEVANT. People get angry and quit everyday, a million times a day. In some cases people do try harder, but once again, I think more people quit than actually try harder.
Not only can drugs compare to anger but so can a alcoholic beverage. Have you ever been with your friends and you take couple drinks? But that one friend takes it too far, and wants to fight everybody. He is not angry, however that's how he's acting. Anger is of no use in a moral situation.
Debate Round No. 2
Mavpa

Pro

And still a lot of students try to show their work and how they can be better by anger. The thing is that you can start to control it, the problem is not with emotions, but in people. We are the ones who should take control and make anger behave the way we want. If we take it in our hands we will know the outcome of anger.
What I meant is that in comparison to other emotions and stimulus anger is strong enough to let you go till the end. And people more likely to finish their plans with anger, not for example with love.
It is irrelevance, because we talk about anger, not the alcoholic motivation.
And it is not necessarily the case that you want to fight everybody when you are angry. But it is used as help when you need a little more courage. People fight for the right thing and with anger it becomes easier.
Jvon

Con

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT people are the problem with anger. It's just an unstable emotion. The most tolerant person has their breaking point. Anger is an emotion that once a person enters, it's har for them to get out of that state. Their are several reasons why anger shouldn't be used. What if a person is angry because they did not get the cookie they want for the cafeteria? Then they go punch the person who makes the cookies. Anger motivated him to do it, but was this a good moral motivator. Doesn't sound like one to me. Another example is a cop who gets angry because the girl he pulled over did not give him her number. Then he writes her a speeding ticket. He was angry, but was his actions morally correct? Anger is definitely better off left out of the equation when making rational decisions. Or decisions that can affect others.
Anger is a horrible motivator. It will cause poor decision making and judgement. Also, it will cause irrational behavior, which could have negative outcomes. Anger is of no use when deciding what's morally right.
Debate Round No. 3
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