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"Adonai, G-d, took the person and put him in the garden of "Eden to cultivate and care for it."
"So shouldn"t I be concerned about the great city of Ninveh, in which there are more than 120,000 people who don"t know their right hand from their left " not to mention all the animals?"
1. G-d made humans "to take care of the garden", which includes the animals therein.
2. G-d cared about the animals being destroyed, just as he did the humans.
I await your responses.
It is forbidden to show cruelty to animals, since this falls under the category of "tza'ar ba'alei chayim". However we are permitted to use animals for food and cloth, as long as they do not suffer unnecessarily.
I was arguing that animals were not created for humans to eat/use, originally, everything was vegan, humans and animals alike ate only herbs, fruits, and vegetables. Eating meat came later on, after Adam sinned. It would logically follow, that seeing as though eating mean followed sin entering into the world, and resulted because of sin entering the world, that eating meat is a sin. A minor sin ob-course, but a sin nevertheless.
Since sin means "to miss the mark", eating meat can be considered "a sin", because G-d created humans to take care of the garden and the animals therein, not eat them. G-d initially intended for humans to be vegan, eating meat is "missing this mark", hence it is a sin.
G-d did not create Adam to take care of the garden or the animals in it. The whole purpose of the garden was to eat and drink without any physical exertion. And besides, I'm not interested in what happened thousands of years ago. The point is that now, we are permitted to use animals as long as they do not suffer unnecessary pain.
I know that, I challenged you to this debate to dispel the notion that animals were made for our consumption, no, tare tolerated for our consumption. Even if we are permitted to eat animals now, back then, when animals were created, they were made with no intention of being eaten.
I, on the other hand, am a vegetarian, it's much easier to keep things kosher seeing as though all the food restrictions apply to meats, with the exception of the law against gluttony.
Well then I guess this has been settled. We have no apparent disagreement.
Because I thought that you were arguing that animals were made for humans to eat and the Torah says it's OK to eat animals.
Whereas I was arguing that animals wee not created to be eaten and that the Torah Tolerates them being eaten.
Was not your reason for voting "Con" on "Animal Rights" in the "Big Issues" that "animals were created to be eaten?"
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