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Arceus is the most powerful Pokemon of all time.

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Started: 4/22/2013 Category: Religion
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puppylover

Pro

Arceus is the most powerful of all creatures among the Pokemon kingdom. He is considered the God of all Pokemon and has extreme power.
THEMAST3RDEBATER

Con

you bring up a valid point on him being the god, but is not the ,most superior.. i would like to express that a magikarp can be used to anyones advantage to defeat every single pokemon in the whole entire world. discussion over..
Debate Round No. 1
puppylover

Pro

Its origin is described in a book called "The Original Story", which states that Arceus was born from an egg in a vortex of pure chaos before the existence of the universe. It proceeded to create three beings from itself, Dialga and Palkia, which created time and space, and Giratina, representing antimatter. It also created Azelf (Being of Willpower), Uxie (Being of Knowledge), and Mesprit (Being of Emotion), which created spirit, and then went into an everlasting sleep. Arceus has a special ability to use various Plates, stated to be fragments from the universe's creation filled with the power of "defeated giants", which allow it to switch to any of the seventeen types. They are found throughout the Sinnoh region, and feature inscriptions about their origins. Arceus can learn the signature move 'Judgment', which changes type with the Plate it is holding.

A Pokemon with this much natural power is far Superior to any other Pokemon in the realm. He is invincible and untouchable by any other Pokemon who may happen to challenge him.
THEMAST3RDEBATER

Con

THE TRUTH IS DANGEROUS

Today, if a book similar to this one were published in Europe, its author would be arrested and imprisoned. Their crime: simply questioning the so-called holocaust where six million Jews were allegedly exterminated during WW II.

Indeed, researchers have endured solitary confinement, brutal beatings by Jewish assailants, ongoing harassment, lengthy court battles, career suicide, and media attacks directed against their work---all because they presented a "revisionist history" of this pivotal event.

Other writers have been the victims of hate crimes, extensive smear campaigns, fines, death threats, and monetary rewards placed upon their heads after going into hiding.

The perpetrators behind these jack-booted Thought Police tactics are an entire holohoax industry devoted to suppressing factual data in favor of peddling heavy-handed doses of propaganda.

Despite these obvious dangers, The Holocaust Hoax Exposed dissects every element of what has become the 20th century's most grotesque conspiracy. Covered in jarring detail is the mythology surrounding "concentration camps," the truth about Zyklon B, Anne Frank's fable, how the absurd "six million" figure has become a laughingstock, and the betrayal by maniacal Zionists of their own Jewish people that led to their deaths (via starvation and disease) after Allied bombings cutoff supply lines to German work camps.

Yet, the only way an Israeli state could be created on stolen Palestinian land following WW II was through the most outlandish lies imaginable. Consequently, the holohoax industry has become a tyrannical dictatorship that incessantly manipulates, distorts, marginalizes and manufactures false results to achieve their Machiavellian ends. By taking their hysterical obsessions to psychopathic levels, the charlatans behind this ruse make it glaringly apparent how weak their foundation is.

To compensate, these intellectually dishonest conmen (and women) continue to persecute revisionist historians all because they're incapable of supporting their arguments through legitimate debate. The Holocaust Hoax Exposed is the final nail in a rotting coffin that has long been buried beneath a plethora of deceit.

REVIEW: Victor Thorn's THE HOLOCAUST HOAX EXPOSED
by Pete Pappas - American Free Press

When Victor Thorn offered us his new book, we expected his unique truth treatment of critical issues. Once again, with The Holocaust Hoax Exposed, our expectations have been met--perhaps even exceeded. In 25 concise chapters he demolishes once and for all the Zionist-Jewish holocaust mythology-insanity.

If readers were limited to but one paragraph that reflected the book?s essence, the very first on page one would suffice. "It's the 20th century's most preposterous fairytale, also known as the holocaust hoax. Anyone approaching this subject with an open mind should seriously consider using the words of 1 Corinthians 13:11 as their guide. 'It's time to put away childish things.' So, akin to Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and any other figment of the imagination, the tale of six million Jews being exterminated in National Socialist death camps is nothing more than a deceptive ruse."

Thorn has provided a framework for the deconstruction--and, in fact, the destruction--of the worldwide holocaust hustle. Each chapter bristles with startling revelations backed by references and revealing photographs. One is a mug shot of Deborah (Lipsynch) Lipstadt, "One of the most debauched propagandists," who mouths off her official version of the words to the hymn of the holocaust. Nearly 20 countries have passed Holocaust Denial Laws, with stiff penalties for offenders. Renowned historian David Irving spent 13 months in prison for holocaust denial, while others like Ernst Zundel did five years and Horst Mueller is serving a draconian 12-year sentence. Why is this information so sacred and taboo? Why can every other topic in the Western world be openly questioned, but not this one?

Thorn points out one of the major anomalies about the holocaust myth: none of the world leaders involved in WW II ever mentioned it in their memoirs. In more than 7000 pages written about WW II by Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles DeGaulle, there is not a single mention of a holocaust, genocide of the Jews, gas chambers, or Hitler's soldiers exterminating six million victims.

In truth, these so-called death factories were labor camps used to meet Germany's desperate labor shortages. Jews were a vital aspect of keeping the war machine's wheels moving. At Auschwitz, 19 of the 39 different work camps were Jewish. As such, in Germany and elsewhere, not a single Jew was deliberately gassed to death in any camp. Thorn shows that, ironically, these camps were the safest place for Jews in Europe during WW II. Wading through a plethora of victims-survivors, he beats the propagandists at their own numbers game.

Regarding Anne Frank, evidence proves that the official folklore surrounding her diary is patently false and that she incidentally died of typhus. In depth research has also proven that Zyklon B was a disinfectant used to control massive epidemics.

In chapter 20, many sensationalized fake memoirs of "holocaust survivors" are exposed. One example is Misha DeFonseca, who claimed that at the age of six she escaped from Nazi murderers and embarked on a four-year, 1900-mile quest through three countries looking for her parents. During this period she not only killed an SS officer and had a love affair with an adult man, but was also raised by wolves. She took care of their cubs while the wolves hunted for food. Then, she ate the raw meat they brought, in addition to mud and grass when raw meat was not available.

Chapter 21 shreds the canard of soap and lampshades allegedly made from Jewish corpses. One source for these tales included famed movie director Billy Wilder, whose film crews supposedly caught the Nazis making soap from Jewish fat and lampshades from their skins.

Probably the most important section of this most important book is Part II, which analyzes how elite Zionists engineered the holocaust, in addition to their means, motives and agenda. The Zionist dark side includes their cooperation with the Nazis via the Transfer Agreement. In a very real sense, the original perpetrators of a holocaust were the Jews themselves. Today, fast-forwarding to 2012, we witness the Jews committing genocide in Gaza with U.S. complicity.

I began this review with the first paragraph of Thorn's book, and it will end with the final paragraph. "Despite decades of propaganda, the Jews that perished in these camps didn't do so at the hands of some inhuman SS extermination machine. Rather, they starved and died of diseases orchestrated by the handiwork of their own diabolical Zionist leaders that allowed Allied forces to bomb German supply lines. These elite Jews crafted their own 'holocaust' of approximately 100,000 Jews---their own people---at the end of WW II so that the facilitation of a new homeland would be guaranteed. The finger of blame for the blood of these dead Jews can only be pointed in one direction---at the Jews themselves. They were responsible . . . they were wholly responsible." Without the holocaust there would be no "Israel" as we know it today. Reparations and other forms of tribute would cease, and massive non-Jew guilt could begin to be erased. The implications are staggering.

The reader of this review is urged to buy The Holocaust Hoax Exposed and study it, then purchase copies for friends and associates. Thorn deserves no less, for the courage, research and exemplary writing. The book is more than a mini-masterpiece.

REVIEW: Victor Thorn's THE HOLOCAUST HOAX EXPOSED
from The Barnes Review

There are three types of people who believe in the Holocaust: the first are those who are invested in it and who stand to profit, financially, socially, or politically, from its lies; the second are those who are completely ignorant of the facts, and have merely heard about it stated as fact; the third are those who know better but are afraid of the violence with which the lie of the Holocaust is enforced. Those who fall into none of those three categories will likely enjoy Victor Thorn's latest book, The Holocaust Hoax Exposed: Debunking the Twentieth Century's Greatest Lie.

Written as a series of short, self-contained arguments, Thorn, author of three previous books on the New World Order, provides the reader with the logic necessary to debunk the casual debater's arguments about why and how the National Socialist German government allegedly killed its Jews. Quoting from actual documents of the National Socialist government, Thorn shows that the Germans set up camps as long term housing facilities, with their own money and own institutions, because the Germans placed too high a value on the Jews as laborers to exterminate them en masse. He then goes on to give an overview of why the Germans were technically unable to exterminate the Jews, and points out the utter irrationality of the exterminationist argument.

Whereas most revisionist books on the Holocaust get bogged down in the technical minutiae of the chemical and mechanical impossibility of the Holocaust story, Thorn makes his argument clear and to the point. In 1945, the entire pre-war Jewish population of Europe was estimated at 3.45 million. The German portion of that was 560,000. So, how did six million die? The German army lost the war because it ran out of fuel. So, how did the Germans fuel the crematoriums that killed six million? At the end of the war, the Red Cross noted that only 120,000 Jewish criminals had served time in labor camps. So, how did 3.7 million Jews apply for --- and receive --- compensation for time spent in these same camps?

Simple questions like this destroy the exterminationist fantasy of Jewish suffering during the Second World War --- and are enough for the man on the street to confront and win an argument with almost anyone he encounters --- Holocaust scholars included. And it is because the Holocaust lie is so easily debunked that violence has been used across the globe to maintain it --- both the violence of the socialist state, and street violence by Jews themselves. This violence has a long history, and thus, Thorn also tells us of the false confessions the United States, Britain and the Soviet Union obtained under torture from former officials of the German government --- officials like Rudolf Hess, who was drugged, beaten and made by the British government to sign false claims that he personally witnessed the deaths of 2.5 million people in 1942 at a number of camps which have been since determined to have never existed.

Simple arguments --- things that the advocates of the Holocaust cannot rebut except with blows --- is what makes Victor Thorn's The Holocaust Hoax Exposed: Debunking the Twentieth Century's Greatest Lie stand out. For those who need to persuade their friends that they are being lied to by the Jews, this book is the needed foundation.
Debate Round No. 2
puppylover

Pro

Alright pal. I think we all know the winner of this debate. Your points are extremely invalid and off subject. You need to take these debates seriously if you ever want to go anywhere in life. You never know who is reading this. There could be a college debating scout reading this. And if he likes what you can do with the keyboard he might offer you a spot at there college. So just keep that in mind when you're debating topics such as this.
THEMAST3RDEBATER

Con

THEMAST3RDEBATER forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
puppylover

Pro

puppylover forfeited this round.
THEMAST3RDEBATER

Con

THEMAST3RDEBATER forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
puppylover

Pro

puppylover forfeited this round.
THEMAST3RDEBATER

Con

THEMAST3RDEBATER forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by giraffelover 3 years ago
giraffelover
This should be in the Entertainment/Misc. category, not religion.
Posted by silverkx2000 3 years ago
silverkx2000
BAHAHAHAHAA!!! Ill take you on this debate Puppylover
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