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OrganJunkie
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PatrickTheWise
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Are Republics Better Than Representative Democracies?

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Started: 4/16/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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OrganJunkie

Pro

Yes. Representative democracies are worse than republics. Republics are better because in any real democracy there are no true permanent rights or violations. In a democracy any law is not permanent and, though unlikely, a democracy could become like the main country in the Hunger Games, just like the Romans had gladiators, except that gladiators were gladiators by punishment or by being a slave. Not to mention that in a democracy slavery or segregation could be outlawed and when many are safe, it could become no longer outlawed and the masses would be surprised as well as terrified and very angry. Such an anger causing situation, like such, might cause a revolt and without representatives in this supposed democracy, things would spiral out of control. Many would die and it would be very likely that either another country would invade or a tyrant leader would come out of the foggy war, perhaps causing a dynasty and a repetition of history, except with nukes, and if there are many power hungry people fighting to rule the entire area that was once a united country would cause hundreds of thousands of people to die, wiping out large lands with important records, Ideas or people. This could also have impact in many other countries, getting hope from the revolt in that country and would begin to fight their communist or dictatorship government, causing supporting countries, which could perhaps cause the UN and NATO to begin war. This could outbreak and sincerely destroy lots of resources and important things causing a great depression in most of the world. Honestly, would you want the entire world to break out into war? Would you like for the entire world to make the foolish decisions once made from 1920 - 1952? Would you want countries to start printing money not backed by anything? Would you want countries to have thousands of miserable people in poverty, increase poverty in a world where it is very common in all states and countries?
PatrickTheWise

Con

I will argue that republics are not better than representative democracies because they are they are both the same thing.

Definitions:

Republic: "A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them. " [1]

Representative Democracy: "a person or thing that represents another or others" [2]

So there you have it, the instigator must concede because there is no method to arguing on their part that could dispute the stance that these are, in fact, interchangeable terms.

Thank you for initiating this 'debate'.

[1] :https://search.yahoo.com...
[2]: http://dictionary.reference.com...
Debate Round No. 1
OrganJunkie

Pro

I believe your statement is flawed. Especially in that Democracies and Republics are the same. A republic is a government governed by the citizens of that government and so is democracy, Except that any republic has a constitution that gives people base rights and laws while a democracy does not. If you live in the United States, which I do, you would probably have pledged allegiance, which is a bit odd that we must, but, you can notice that in the pledge of allegiance that you state the United states are a united republic. It is commonly thought that the United states is a democracy, but that would be terrible because a democracy is basically a republic but without constitution rights or constitution laws. Not to mention you didn't even respect the name. The republic in question was never said to be representative. If it was I could only argue about constitution rights, which is still a major thing in involving to my side of why republics are better...
PatrickTheWise

Con

PatrickTheWise forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
OrganJunkie

Pro

OrganJunkie forfeited this round.
PatrickTheWise

Con

It is important to recognize that the instigator has not used anything other than conjecture to argue their stance. This is an important thing to recognize because the definitions of what a specific form of government is. One could argue that a communist economy is a plan to utilize rockets to venture to the moon. We must adhere to the definitions that are accepted within our language. Republics and Democratic Representation are synonymous, this is the only rebuttal required to dissolve my opponents contention.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by FuzzyCatPotato 1 year ago
FuzzyCatPotato
there's no difference
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