Are humans naturally evil (Con) or good?(Pro)
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I am eager to hear your guys' thoughts on the matter.
While I believe humans aren't born to be evil, they're not born to be good either. It's up for that human to decide his values/beliefs. While it wasn't right to murder millions of Jews, that was Hitler's values and beliefs. FDR's values were to help America out of Depression, saving it as a whole. Trump's is to be an egomaniac (still support him though).
In conclusion, it's all about perspective.
I do not believe good and evil is a subjective thing. Good is wanting to help others, evil is a willingness to harm them. In my opinion, any action or belief can be classified as good, evil, or neutral.
As such, humans are naturally evil, or at least more evil than good. Animals do not have a morality outside of their own families and groups. Anyone who isn't like them doesn't matter to them. How are humans different? Sure, now people can get genuine joy from helping others, but that is the influence of society. Look back in history and see the cruelty of our ancestors, how much more willing to kill they were. Notice the more primitive, simple societies they live in. Now, with more people and a bigger need for more rigid societies, we are relatively moral. We now have the ability to care for others because we are TAUGHT that. Morality actually goes against the natural order.
"Look back in history and see the cruelty of our ancestors, how much more willing to kill they were."
There's a problem with this.
-The reason many people were "willing to kill" was for perfectly logical reasons. Native Americans only killed for what they needed. If they had to attack other tribes, it was to get resources to make sure their own tribe survives. Basically, you're saying it would be a good thing to slowly let your tribe starve to death. I don't think you'd be counted as "good" if you do that.
"Good is wanting to help others, evil is a willingness to harm them."
that which is morally right; righteousness.
"a mysterious balance of good and evil"
profoundly immoral and malevolent
Good and evil are entirely subjective. When other people think you're evil for stealing, you're good for helping your family survive. Like I said, it is entirely thanks to perspective.
"Evilness is marked by a disregard for other people's happiness. This can include being selfish or flat out enjoying others' suffering."
Lets hear that one more time:
by a disregard for other people's happiness.
Are people evil if they love their family and friends? I don't think so.
A final note, this debate is probably already over based on your forfeiture.
The definitions you listed for good and evil coincide with mine. Harming few people for the sake of many is good, and the vice versa is evil.
As for my forfeiture, apologies. I have been rather distracted lately and I lost track of the time.
"how would humans NOW react to gladiatorial matches?"
Well, different people would react in different ways. It's as I've been saying.
Let me ask you a question.
If humans are born evil, how to some turn out good?
"The natives actions then were not evil"
Not only have I successfully upheld my BOP (hummans are naturally not evil), but you've contradicted your own BOP ( humans are naturally evil).
You've stated yourself that Native Americans were not evil. By Native Americans, you also mean the first humans to cross Beringia to get here, all the way back to the last Ice Age. Those were technically some of the first humans. Let me ask you another question:
If the first humans, in your words, I might add, are classified as "good", then how are humans born evil?
I rest my case.
(A final note, my arguments would be longer If I had more time. But, with school and such, I'm kind of in a bins these days. I apologize for the inconvenience.)
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Vote Placed by mall 9 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Basically it's agreed that humans are not one sided to naturally being evil so my stance leans towards the pro's side. Explanation was also commented as well
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