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Are kids shows today really for kids?

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Started: 1/18/2016 Category: TV
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Stage13-10

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Let's get into some stuff here. Yes, we know humor is subjective and the like, but that doesn't excuse adult material into kids shows. Let's take for example, the show Breadwinners. Generally hated by the public, and for good reason. In one episode, A character supposedly proclaimed to be a duck goes and invades a summer camp for females only to find his self-proclaimed "girlfriend". How he does this by using a loaf of bread spiked with drugs to force his soon-to-be lover to love him. Now does that sound kid-friendly to you? And no, saying 'It's for kids' never excuses shows with adult material. That's about as bad as me saying that Family Guy is for kids because it isn't. Now since kids, are well, impressionable, watch in awe as they want to be their "heroes". And that means shoving bread into ducks' mouths and likely killing them. I've seen a review of an episode of this show, and it can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com... Also, with all the repetitive humor about toilets, and the kid's shows being entirely interchangeable, kids will get bored of these shows very quickly.
BaronFranzdEpinay

Pro

Shows today are certainly pushing cultural boundaries that were previously left untouched and considered unsafe for children, however almost all cartoons with adult content are labeled as such. Family Guy, for instance, runs on the Adult Swim section of Cartoon Network. They clearly state that it isn't for children. While there may be examples of kids shows, such as Breadwinners, but the public display of disgust towards the show is in and of itself indicative that it has gone too far. Spongebob, considered a classic "kids show", has many examples of innuendo and what some could consider "adult humor".

It seems by definition impossible that a "kids show" could not be for kids, however I presume you mean that the shows being marketed to kids are not kid-friendly. Defining what is kid-friendly and what is not is a battle of drawing a completely arbitrary line between conservative and liberal feelings about child-raising. I argue that it's not that kid shows aren't for kids, but that kid-oriented television being out-competed by online media like youtube, and are reduced to low-budget writing that can end up coming off as asinine and crude.
Debate Round No. 1
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Con

Yes, while kids shows may have touches of adult humor at times, there has to be a line. Too much of a good thing, no longer is a good thing. There has to be a balance. Spongebob, on the other hand, has a balance. Not a perfect one, but it has one. I can't just slap together offensive content and label it kid-friendly, now could I? The thing is the problem is not also the line, but lazy parenting. If the tv babysits your kids, chances are your kids might be toast. Although what qualifies for a "kids show" is subjective, there still has to be some kind of quality control over these things.

Online media, on the other hand, can cause networks to duplicate what the kids see and try to make it into a TV show. 9 times out of 10, it usually flops. Take Nick Studio 10, for example. It's like the things an average kid sees on youtube, but comes off as asinine and crude. What seems to go into a network's head is this: If X gives ratings, we need an overdose of that. Kids shows are not in it for the entertainment, but for monetary purposes.
BaronFranzdEpinay

Pro

Your argument does not support the debate question. While I agree with you that there is a slow movement of adult material into kid shows, and that there are kid shows that are probably suited for adults, this doesn't mean that "kids shows today aren't for kids". They're marketed towards kids, and while they may be offensive to parents, are made for kids to enjoy. Some kids shows are unbelievably stupid, and so is their humor, however this doesn't make them not for kids just because they feature something that could be interpreted as adult only.
Debate Round No. 2
Stage13-10

Con

While you are right about kids shows not being for kids because of adult content being slowly put in, and kids shows suited for adults, there still is the arising problem that, there's not really that much effort put into it that gives the impression that kids are feeble minded and can't understand anything.

Take Sanjay and Craig, another show like Breadwinners that strives on only shock value and adult humor to entertain. Now does
that sound kid-friendly to you? That sounds like something from Adult Swim rather than Nickelodeon.

The point is, the standard for what qualifies as a kids show is so questionable to the point that just about anyone can make a show so asinine and offensive and it will still qualify as content kids would watch.

That is why I am asking are kids shows today really are for kids.
BaronFranzdEpinay

Pro

We both agree that today the shows that are marketed towards kids are crude and asinine, and can even be offensive, however I don't see how this doesn't make them "for kids". Would I want my children to watch them? No. However they're still being made to be consumed by kids, thus they are still "for kids", even if they aren't wholesome or good for kids to watch.
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