Are people born Gay?
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e. My belief (and experience) and my observance (having personally talked with HUNDREDS of men and women desiring to walk away from unwanted same sex attraction) is that the facts of truth do not bear witness to the current and popular conventional wisdom of this age concerning homosexuality. Let"s look at truth for a bit.
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Sex is for procreation. Would everyone agree with that statement? Do I really need to say more? Sex, in its uttermost and ultimate form is for the express purpose of reproducing"for making babies. Of course, man in his wisdom, believes everything is about him and life is all about getting the most pleasure"leading mankind to pervert and co-opt the things of God in such away as to eradicate the reality of having to face his sinful nature. Perversion is simply taking something God intended for a holy purpose and using that something in an unholy or unnatural way. Sex is pleasurable"but its ultimate purpose is to reproduce the human race. Everything we do to preserve life was made pleasurable by God to insure that mankind would continue to thrive. We need water to survive"so He made it pleasurable to drink. We need food to survive"so He made food taste good and smell good, making it a pleasurable thing to do. We need to produce the next generation for our species to survive"so He made sex pleasurable.
We pervert our desires when we substitute something else to meet that need or when we go outside the boundaries God established for our own good. (As a side note, 10-15% of Americans identify themselves as alcoholics yet we do not consider this normal, do we? Why are we showing such preferential treatment to those who want to impose their desire that homosexuality be seen as a normal sexual behavior when only 1-2.8% of Americans identify as exclusively homosexual?) Alcoholics do not want to face their weakness. Overeaters or gluttons do not want to face their weakness. Homosexuals do not want to admit their weakness. Overcoming any addiction or disorder or sinful habit requires work"blood, sweat, and tears. Many give up simply because they cannot withstand the pressures fighting such a battle brings up. I can say this honestly as we have heard from the military world: freedom is not free.
" Clinical professor of psychiatry at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine and past president of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, Dr. Charles Socarides, argues that since psychologists and ministers have treated homosexuality with success, the genetic cause theory must be suspect. 3
" We have all heard bits and pieces from the famous "twin study" conducted in 1991 by psychologist Michael Bailey and psychiatrist Richard Pillar. But the truth of their own study flies in the face of conventional wisdom. This study attempted to show that homosexuality occurs more frequently among identical twins than fraternal twins. The interesting result is that the study actually provides support for ENVIRONMENTAL factors versus genetics. If homosexuality was a part of the genetic code then both identical twins would have been homosexual 100 percent of the time"but that was not what they discovered!
" Quite simply, THERE IS NO GAY GENE! Even openly homosexual researchers have come to that conclusion. In 1996, a research team of five led by Dean Hamer at the National Cancer Institute released a study that attempted to link homosexuality with a specific region of the X chromosome. Dean Hamer made the statement ""environmental factors play a role. There is not a single master gene that makes people gay." He went on to say, "I don"t think we will ever be able to predict who will be gay.
I will not belabor the point, but those who identify as homosexual are statistically at a higher risk of drug use, suicide, depression, and other emotional problems.14 In addition, in the October 1999 issue of Archives of General Psychiatry, research on the relationship between homosexuality and mental-health problems found that men with same-sex partners were 6.5 times as likely as their co-twin counterparts to have attempted suicide.15 "Homosexuality in America: Exposing the Myths", a report by Richard Howe exposes the very intentional lies promoted by the gay agenda. Howe writes, "The slick and somewhat successful public relations campaign hides the true face of the homosexual lifestyle. This can be demonstrated from two (indisputable) sources: former homosexuals who reveal what the typical homosexual lifestyle is like and videotapes of other homosexuals in certain public gatherings
I don't believe that someone can be "born gay" however I do believe one can turn gay when he/she is older
Therapists who treat men and women struggling with same-sex attractions say that there are several consistent factors that contribute to the emergence of homosexuality: gender confusion in childhood, a failure to internalize maleness, and sexual abuse by a same-sex predator. Dr. Gregory Dickson, whose doctoral thesis is on the relationship between a mother and son in the development of homosexuality, found that 49% of the homosexuals he surveyed said they had been molested, compared to less than 2% of heterosexuals. Other research confirms what therapists have known for decades: Homosexuals are made, not born. And they are frequently "made" by older men who molest them as youngsters.
Counselor Dr. Robert Hicks, author of The Masculine Journey has some sobering thoughts on the real origins of homosexual attractions i quote ""In counseling gay men for twenty years, I have not had one yet whom I would say had a normative childhood or normative adolescent development in the sexual arena. More often than not I have found stories of abusive, alcoholic, or absent (physically and emotionally) fathers; stories of incest or first experiences of sex forced upon them by older brothers, neighborhood men, or even friends. I sometimes find these men have been early exposure to pornography".
It is worth repeating: Homosexuals are made, not born.
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I believe i have proven my point in an assortment of ways and so have you Thank you for debating with me :D
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