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macriley
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Are prisoners receiving more benefits than tax paying citizens?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/8/2014 Category: People
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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macriley

Pro

Are prisoners receiving more benefits than tax paying citizens?

YES, many prisoners receive WAYYYY more benefits than tax paying citizens. It's ridiculous. Prisoners receive free tv/Internet, free medical/health care, free college tuition, and free food! It's crazy! Why should people who are being punished receive all of these luxuries and why should people who aren't being punished have to pay taxes to help support this?
hatshepsut

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Most of these debates are called "troll" because the instigator does not follow up. On the assumption instigator here really wishes a debate, I will provide something more in the nature of instruction than forensics. That is, I'm assuming instigator would rather toss convicts down the nearest well and allow them to starve at the bottom. But we live in a country that doesn't do those things anymore.

All prisons feed their inmates. Whether anyone not in prison would want to eat what's offered there is another question, and individual prison kitchens vary greatly on quality - perhaps instigator can compile a "restaurant" guide for prospective offenders to help them choose the best state to get incarcerated in. As for medical care, two U.S. Supreme Court decisions, Estelle v. Gamble (1976) and Brown v. Plata (2011), require it under the 8th Amendment's prohibition on cruel or unusual punishment. Nonetheless prison care tends to be minimal. There are no routine medical or dental checkups in most state prison systmes; only the potentially life-threatening stuff gets attention. Dental means only that rotten teeth are pulled before they abscess and make removal of the jaw necessary.

In the Utah system, some inmates have access to a communal TV in the dayroom at certain hours, but others must purchase their own TV set after getting permission. Limited high school and vocational tech are offered: Utah spends $400K on prisoner education out of a $160M corrections budget, or about 1/4 of 1%. Only inmates near their release dates can apply. Inmates can take college classes by mail or online, but they must pay their own tuition to do so.

Your tax money pays for this. The alternative is the feudal revenge system from medieval times: Maybe we shouldn't have police either, if we're not going to bother with a correctional system. If someone murders you, your brother goes out and clubs the perpetrator. If you're worried about your safety, private bodyguards are for hire if you have the money. Hey, it worked fine for thousands of years!
Debate Round No. 1
macriley

Pro

macriley forfeited this round.
hatshepsut

Con

I did apologize for the "troll" reference. But when you look the post, you see it was easy to think this...an uninformed opinion, at least. Regards,...
Debate Round No. 2
macriley

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macriley forfeited this round.
hatshepsut

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This debate didn't happen. My opponent is new & may not be aware of having it on the board.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by MyDinosaurHands 2 years ago
MyDinosaurHands
Prisoners also receive more rape than us.
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