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Minddagger
Pro (for)
The Contender
thats_not_my_name
Con (against)

Are the Paul brothers bad people?

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Started: 1/9/2018 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Minddagger

Pro

Logan Paul and Jake Paul are the fakest you tubers in the website, its bad enough for one thing that they use and traumatize children, they've manipulated them into thinking anyone who hates Jake Paul is the most evil person in the planet, and if that's not bad enough, they do some of the most stupid stuff and get away with it.

first round is introduction and acceptance, the rest are just debating
thats_not_my_name

Con

Hi I'm Jodi and this is Bob. All we have to say is,
"Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days
One, two, three, four!
Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days
Everybody knows what I'm talkin' 'bout
Everybody gets that way
Everybody knows what I'm talkin' 'bout
Everybody gets that way
Sometimes I'm in a jam
I've gotta make a plan
It might be crazy
I do it anyway
No way to know for sure
I'll figure out a cure
I'm patchin' up the holes
But then it overflows
If I'm not doin' too well
Why be so hard on myself?
Nobody's perfect!
I gotta work it!
Again and again till I get it right
Nobody's perfect!
You live and you learn it!
And if I'm messing up sometimes
Nobody's perfect
Sometimes I work a scheme
But then it flips on me
Doesn't turn out how I planned
Get stuck in quick sand
No problem, can be solved
Once I get involved
I try to be delicate
Then crash right into it
My intentions are good
Sometimes just misunderstood
Nobody's perfect!
I gotta work it!
Again and again till I get it right
Nobody's perfect!
You live and you learn it!
And if I'm messing up sometimes
Nobody's perfect
Nobody's perfect!
I gotta work it!
I know in time I'll find a way
Nobody's perfect!
You live and you learn it
'Cause everybody makes mistakes
Nobody's perfect
Sometimes I fix things up
And they fall apart again
Nobody's perfect
I know I mix things up
But I always get it right in the end
Next time you feel like
It's just one of those days
When you just can't seem to win
If things don't turn out the way you plan
Figure something else out!
Don't stay down!
Try again!
Yeah!
Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days
Everybody knows what, what I'm talkin' 'bout
Everybody gets that way
Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days
Everybody knows what, what I'm talkin' 'bout
Everybody gets that way
Nobody's perfect!
I gotta work it!
Again and again till I get it right!
Nobody's perfect!
Ya live and ya learn it!
And if I'm messing up sometimes
Nobody's perfect!
I gotta work it!
'Cause everybody makes mistakes!
Nobody's perfect
Nobody's perfect!
No, no, nobody's perfect!"
Citation:
Songwriters: Ulf Lindstrom / Johan Ekhe / Sanne Karlsson
Nobody's Perfect lyrics " Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Walt Disney Music Company

So showing a dead body on camera, being racist, sexist and homophobic, and any other action done by the Paul brothers is perfectly acceptable, in theory, as long as there are people to excuse it.
Debate Round No. 1
Minddagger

Pro

first off, what Logan Paul did was not a mistake, he took the time to edit it and everything, second off, being racist, sexist and homophobic is almost never a mistake, and I don't know any Disney song that defends racism.
thats_not_my_name

Con

Well if you want a Disney song that supports racism then:

Y'all can't handle this
Y'all don't know what's about to happen baby
Team 10
Los Angeles, Cali boy
But I'm from Ohio though, white boy

[Verse 1: Jake Paul]
It's everyday bro, with the Disney Channel flow
5 mill on YouTube in 6 months, never done before
Passed all the competition man, PewDiePie is next
Man I'm poppin' all these checks, got a brand new Rolex
And I met a Lambo too and I'm coming with the crew
This is Team 10, b****, who the heck are flippin' you?
And you know I kick them out if they ain't with the crew
Yeah, I'm talking about you, you beggin' for attention
Talking s*** on Twitter too but you still hit my phone last night
It was 4:52 and I got the text to prove
And all the recordings too, don't make me tell them the truth
And I just dropped some new merch and it's selling like a god, church
Ohio's where I'm from, we chew 'em like it's gum
We shooting with a gun, the tattoo just for fun
I Usain Bolt and run, catch me at game one
I cannot be outdone, Jake Paul is number one

[Chorus: Jake Paul]
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
I said it is everyday bro!

[Verse 2: Nick Crompton]
You know it's Nick Crompton and my collar stay poppin'
Yes, I can rap and no, I am not from Compton
England is my city
And if it weren't for Team 10, then the US would be s*****
I'll pass it to Chance 'cause you know he stay litty

[Verse 3: Chance Sutton]
Two months ago you didn't know my name
And now you want my fame? B**** I'm blowin' up
I'm only going up, now I'm going off, I'm never fallin' off
Like Mag, who? Digi who? Who are you?
All these beefs I just ran through, hit a milli in a month
Where were you? Hatin' on me back in West Fake
Think you need to get your s*** straight
Jakey brought me to the top, now we're really poppin' off
Number 1 and number 4, that's why these fans all at our door
It's lonely at the top so we all going
We left Ohio, now the trio is all rollin'
It's Team 10, b****
We back again, always first, never last
We the future, we'll see you in the past

[Chorus: Jake Paul]
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
I said it is everyday bro!

[Verse 4: Martinez Twins]
Hold on, hold on, hold on
Can we switch the language?
We 'bout to hit it
S", lo "nico que quiero es dinero
Trabajando en YouTube todo el d"a entero
Viviendo en U.S.A, el sue"o de cualquiera
Enviando d"lares a mi familia entera
Tenemos una persona por encima
Se llama Donald Trump y est" en la cima
Desde aqu" te cantamos - can I get my VISA?
Martinez Twins, representando Espa"a
Desde la pobreza a la fama

[Chorus: Jake Paul]
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
It's everyday bro
I said it is everyday bro!

[Verse 5: Tessa Brooks]
Yo, it's Tessa Brooks
The competition shook
These guys up on me
I got 'em with the hook
Lemme educate ya'
And I ain't talking book
Panera is your home?
So, stop calling my phone
I'm flyin' like a drone
They buying like a loan
Yeah, I smell good
Is that your boy's cologne?

[Verse 6: Jake Paul]
Is that your boy's cologne?
Started balling', quicken Loans
Now I'm in my flippin' zone
Yes, they all copy me
But, that's some s***** clones
Stay in all designer clothes
And they ask me what I make
I said is 10 with six zeros
Always plug, merch link in bio
And I will see you tomorrow 'cause
It's everyday bro
Peace

Technically not produced by Disney but Dirk was a true Disney star at the time this song was released.
Debate Round No. 2
Minddagger

Pro

first off, that isn't a song that supports racism, that is a song sung by a racist, and his names not dirk, its the very person we are talking about, jake paul. and no it was not a mistake
thats_not_my_name

Con

This Disney song is completely racist:
Why does he ask you, "How?"
Why does he ask you, "How?"
Once the Injun didn't know
All the things that he know now
But the Injun, he sure learn a lot
And it's all from asking, "How?"

Hana Mana Ganda
Hana Mana Ganda
We translate for you
Hana means what mana means
And ganda means that too

When did he first say, "Ugh!"
When did he first say, "Ugh!"
In the Injun book it say
When the first brave married squaw
He gave out with a big ugh
When he saw his Mother-in-Law

What made the red man red?
What made the red man red?
Let's go back a million years
To the very first Injun prince
He kissed a maid and start to blush
And we've all been blushin' since

You've got it from the headman
The real true story of the red man
No matter what's been written or said
Now you know why the red man's red!

You've never done something before that you have highly regretted? You've never done something that you wanted to apologize over and over again for? Most people have. Also the Paul brothers have been subjected to high doses of internet fame and power which tends to make people not think clearly.
Debate Round No. 3
Minddagger

Pro

First off, that song is nowhere near racist

second off, Logan didn't regret making that video, his apology is obviously faked, not only that Logan Paul has done real racist stuff in Japan, same with Jake Paul.

Internet fame and power is no excuse, showing a dead body is something no one with their sanity would do, that video traumatized children and offended the victim's family, as such, Logan and Jake Paul both are unexcused as innocent.

and this proves it, read it all:
https://www.vox.com...
thats_not_my_name

Con

They are not "bad" people. They've just done "bad" things. Why is everything so inexcusable in today's society? The Paul Brothers are basically kids and although they should have a sense of right and wrong, they may not always realize it when the time comes. They apologized and aren't going to do it again, so what's the problem? If America could excuse every actually bad thing that Trump has done, and elect him to be the leader of America, then why can't we forgive two kiddos for showing a person who suicided from a tree? Trump can grab em by the *vagina* and call all other countries, besides Europe, poopyholes, but we can't forgive the dead person?
Debate Round No. 4
Minddagger

Pro

If they've done multiple bad things without changing whatsoever, then they are bad people, and if they are kids then why did they:

-set a hot tub on fire, endangering an old women's life

-Framing the neighbors by saying they tried to kill them

-advertised themselves while their friends dog died

-endangered their dogs multiple times

-steal songs

this is not even half of my list.

trump said words, everything I showed you is what the Paul brother DID. Actions speak louder than words, and Logan Paul and Jake Paul have done more actions than anything trump did.

if you want proof that they are bad people, just look at any dramaalert video.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by it_is_de_wae_to_go 6 months ago
it_is_de_wae_to_go
Brah!!!!!!!!!! Do you even know this person!!!! If nah then you can't say that they are a retard!!!!!!! Also, that is very offensive!!!!!!
Posted by Debating_Horse 6 months ago
Debating_Horse
Con is a damn retard! XD
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